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#1 OFFLINE   Floper54

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 10:09 AM

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I would like to share my experience on my latest add : A Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec II 1/18

I bought this car on ebay ( my first buy on ebay ! just one week ago )

in the description : Very Good Condition but No box

Ok, no problem.   I Bid and win the car

I received the model yesterday and the problems started,

IMHO the car is not in " very good condition "  ( broken front lip / broken spoiler / missing wiper / dust everywhere ... ) Thank you ebay's seller....


But the most interesting part came after; I noticed some oil on the body !

I was thinking that it was another problem from the seller until i look under the car;

I found a weird tire, very bright and with a different shape  :dunno:

On this Skyline all tires are nice rubber quality, but not all... the front right tire is hard and oily !!   :wtff:

I decided to dissasemble the car to wash it properly and look clearly this weird tire.  ( Sorry for the bad pics )

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Weird Tire on the Left

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Bright because of " oil "

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Curved shape

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Oil inside the rim

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Then i decided to remove the tire to see the quantity of liquid inside and .....  :wtff: :wtff:

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And I've seen in my collection a Autoart Murcielago first gen with oil under 2 tires.... same on my Hot Wheels Elite Testarossa

After Paint rash and zinc pest... is this the new cancer for old models ???  Be careful guys

Because our priceless models want to go back to dust !  :dizzy:

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 10:56 AM

Have to admit I have never seen that, especially for an oily substance to make rubber become brittle.  Makes you wonder how the model was stored, and whether that one tire was subjected to a source of heat that could have cooked the tire.
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 11:11 AM

Bad luck Floper54! :omg:

To me, it looks like it might be a variation on the notorious 'UT/TSM melting tyre' syndrome...where I believe it's thought to be a reaction between the tyre and the releasing agent from the mould... :gaah:

If that's the case, unfortunately there's no stopping the reaction and not much you can do about it other than to source a replacement... :bawling:

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 11:33 AM

I have spares if you want a new tire. Never seen it before either and have had 50+ r34's, probably a cleaner that was used of some sort?
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 12:05 PM

I wanted to open the same topic you just started as I have the same thing ;)

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 12:21 PM

I have never seen this on Autoarts before. I had it on one of my Minichamps after only a year though
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 12:52 PM

Never seen this! wtf

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 01:03 PM

I have never seen this on any brands before. Weird indeed.

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 01:33 PM

I have had models with greasy/oily tires before, but this is insane! Especially when the tire gets soo brittle  :wtff:

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 01:58 PM

Weird example , but my school-mates pen has had this issue.

The rubber is loosing its oil and gets hard. I guess that oil works as softener
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 02:14 PM

That sucks! I have seen a little oilyness I think but I cannot remember which model it was

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 03:07 PM

I've only seen this on a couple models in my collection. Ran them under soapy water and it never came back but Floper how do you store them - it could be the rubber compound is breaking down from over heating or a reaction to cleaning agents. I had used strong glass cleaners at one time and thought that may have been the culprit. Let us know.

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 03:50 PM

View Postibj40, on 20 December 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

Have to admit I have never seen that, especially for an oily substance to make rubber become brittle.  Makes you wonder how the model was stored, and whether that one tire was subjected to a source of heat that could have cooked the tire.

why 1 tire and the 3 others are perfect ? i don't know..

View Postmairandeddy, on 20 December 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

Bad luck Floper54! :omg:

To me, it looks like it might be a variation on the notorious 'UT/TSM melting tyre' syndrome...where I believe it's thought to be a reaction between the tyre and the releasing agent from the mould... :gaah:

If that's the case, unfortunately there's no stopping the reaction and not much you can do about it other than to source a replacement... :bawling:

Yes i think you are right about the melting tire syndrome,  i've seen that on my old F1 gtr Ut model,

I have many original wheels for the R34 so i can restore the car

View PostPetey, on 20 December 2015 - 11:33 AM, said:

I have spares if you want a new tire. Never seen it before either and have had 50+ r34's, probably a cleaner that was used of some sort?

I have many R34 and never seen this problem before, weird indeed.

View Postaudirs6, on 20 December 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

I wanted to open the same topic you just started as I have the same thing ;)

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Well, it's exactly how it looks before breaking in 10 pieces... poor M3

View PostStratosWRC, on 20 December 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

I have never seen this on Autoarts before. I had it on one of my Minichamps after only a year though

Minichamps ? which model ?

View Postlateapex, on 20 December 2015 - 12:52 PM, said:

Never seen this! wtf

I had the same reaction this morning...

View PostMSZ, on 20 December 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:

I have never seen this on any brands before. Weird indeed.

Same reaction. I've never seen a tire like this one

View Postschuifelhoofd, on 20 December 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

I have had models with greasy/oily tires before, but this is insane! Especially when the tire gets soo brittle  :wtff:

Yes it's crazy. I remember having some Ertl with oily tires before.

View PostSupra Mkiv, on 20 December 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

Weird example , but my school-mates pen has had this issue.

The rubber is loosing its oil and gets hard. I guess that oil works as softener

Exact, i think the same.

View PostJosh, on 20 December 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

That sucks! I have seen a little oilyness I think but I cannot remember which model it was

Check your models mate.

View Postwrx_triggerhappy, on 20 December 2015 - 03:07 PM, said:

I've only seen this on a couple models in my collection. Ran them under soapy water and it never came back but Floper how do you store them - it could be the rubber compound is breaking down from over heating or a reaction to cleaning agents. I had used strong glass cleaners at one time and thought that may have been the culprit. Let us know.

I 've seen this melting tire problem on my old F1 gtr Ut models ( bought used pre owned ) wooden shelf

One of my Elite Testarossa ( bought pre owned ) but never displayed, the tire was sticky in the original box...

The AUTOart Murcielago ( pre owned ) and displayed on my glass shelf, clean with bio soft cleaner product...

And this R34 i've just received, weird. And the 3 others tires are perfect...
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 04:39 PM

The oil/grease is nothing new, nearly every model in my collection has secreted a small amount of this oil/grease over time, but the tyres just breaking up is new to me. I wonder if the manufactures soak the rubber wheels in a lubricant to make them more supple to slip over the rim ?... Hmm it's definitely a strange one. :dunno:

Here's a pic of my GMP Ferrari 312P, the tyres secreted some oil/grease which has melted the plastic base. But yet the tyre itself is perfect :wtff:
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 05:27 PM

View PostFloper54, on 20 December 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

Minichamps ? which model ?

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 06:06 PM

Wow, that's bad with the Skyline. I wonder if the temperature the models are stored at has anything to do with this tyre melting/secreting oil. I wish the manufacturers were more open about their techniques and took steps to prevent such problems.

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 06:28 PM

That was a scary read! :omg: Sorry to hear that your model came with some many issues, but that tire really was an eye opener.. That's the kind of thing that can scare a person right outta' this hobby!! :bawling:  With that said, I guess we'll  all have to see to model maintenance care like our real cars  :rolleyes:
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 07:28 PM

View PostRetroclassics, on 20 December 2015 - 04:39 PM, said:

The oil/grease is nothing new, nearly every model in my collection has secreted a small amount of this oil/grease over time, but the tyres just breaking up is new to me. I wonder if the manufactures soak the rubber wheels in a lubricant to make them more supple to slip over the rim ?... Hmm it's definitely a strange one. :dunno:

Here's a pic of my GMP Ferrari 312P, the tyres secreted some oil/grease which has melted the plastic base. But yet the tyre itself is perfect :wtff:

I never display a model directly on the display case ( Exclusiv cars, Autoart Crystal, triple 9.... ) because the tire stick on the plastic base.

Then you have a trace on the tire,

I always put a small square of paper under the wheel to protect my models in these cases,


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View PostFloper54, on 20 December 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

Minichamps ? which model ?

McLaren M23, James Hunt's car

Wow.... i have 2 M23 Mclaren ( Hulme )

View PostUzair, on 20 December 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

Wow, that's bad with the Skyline. I wonder if the temperature the models are stored at has anything to do with this tyre melting/secreting oil. I wish the manufacturers were more open about their techniques and took steps to prevent such problems.

I don't know the stored temperature, but on 4 tires only 1 is affected. Why ?
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View PostD N, on 20 December 2015 - 06:28 PM, said:

That was a scary read! :omg: Sorry to hear that your model came with some many issues, but that tire really was an eye opener.. That's the kind of thing that can scare a person right outta' this hobby!! :bawling:  With that said, I guess we'll  all have to see to model maintenance care like our real cars  :rolleyes:

The tire issue is disturbing but i have many replacement wheels,

Yes it could be frightening for a big collector like me ( at least 100 Autoart in my collection )

I bought models by passion and i invested a lot in my collection, but i don't want to loose money in that expensive hobby,

I hope that our models are not perishable....
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 07:28 PM

Sorry to see that happened to your purchase. Thats not oil. Thats a substance from the melting tire. It happened to one of my models when one of the tires came in contact with the display case's base that it was sitting on for a lomg time and somehow it has some chemical reaction and started melting and it produced some oily substance.

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 07:36 PM

View PostRetroclassics, on 20 December 2015 - 04:39 PM, said:

The oil/grease is nothing new, nearly every model in my collection has secreted a small amount of this oil/grease over time, but the tyres just breaking up is new to me. I wonder if the manufactures soak the rubber wheels in a lubricant to make them more supple to slip over the rim ?... Hmm it's definitely a strange one. :dunno:

Here's a pic of my GMP Ferrari 312P, the tyres secreted some oil/grease which has melted the plastic base. But yet the tyre itself is perfect :wtff:
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Thats exactly what happened to one of my models as stated above. As soon as I stopped letting the tires come in contact with the base. The oily substance stopped and back to normal.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:50 AM

I've had that happen to other rubber products... I think its just the plastic/rubber breaking down overtime... going back to petroleum.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 03:30 AM

ice had this twice already, with the r34's from AUTOart. i found it strange, but since the models where damaged when i bought them, i thought it was from the pre owner.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 03:39 AM

Did you try contacting AUTOart about this?
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Posted 21 December 2015 - 06:27 AM

Never seen the tyre rubber disintegrate like this (and I've seen plenty of models) I have seen it melt on to bases several times though.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 08:14 AM

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