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#1 OFFLINE   Stu72

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:20 AM

Back in November last year I sold one of my 1:43 Make Up Lamborghini's on ebay. The model was brand new, never removed from it's base. The cover was only removed for photos once. Anyway the item was sent (tracked a my expense) and arrived with the new owner 2 days after payment was received on 10th November 2016.

So you can magine my suprise when i receive the below message from the buyer today. How come it's taken 2 months to raise an issue is my initial response. I've checked PayPal's refund policies and apparantly buyers have 160 days to raise a claim after purchase. Of course the buyer is requesting a refund

Any advise guys? I've asked for photos to show the issues

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:44 AM

Even if you ask him to do a photo, he may be breaking the model just before doing it, just to get the refund.

Have you done any photo of the model before shipping it?

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:48 AM

Yes I have photos of the model complete before posting.

I just know I'm getting scammed due to the rediculous Paypal refund policy for buyers. A time period of 4 months for a seller to raise a claim is totally unfair for non trade/private sellers.
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:27 AM

It sounds a bit fishy to me too mate..

Have they given pictures of it ? Was it a numbered item ? Did they open a dispute or just send that message ?

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:22 AM

Hi Craig

The buyer contacted me via via 2 emails. The first email had the request i posted above, the second email (arrived 20 minutes later) had a copy of the paypal transaction included with a request for a replacement or refund. So far I've only requested photos ot issue. Any dispute he will have to raise formally though Paypal.
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:37 AM

Wow, that's pretty horrible to get hit with out of nowhere. Best of luck with that, I hope he isn't able to pull one over on you.

A tip, you might want to be pro-active and call ebay customer service and talk to a rep about seller protection. Explain the situation and see if they can tell you how they'd respond to this guy opening a claim and complaining so long after. It's possibly worth a shot to find out, hopefully, that you have nothing to worry about should he decide to do that. I'm dealing with something right now where the buyer is trying to extort me, but I spoke w/ebay and they assured me that I have nothing to worry about based on the facts as they exist. Just a thought, as peace of mind is invaluable!
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 03:36 PM

Seconded, last time I contacted ebay support via phone they were very helpful.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 04:42 PM

Get those photos m8 - and keep Paypal informed... :twocents:   Do you have a record of the delivery date to evidence vs the date the buyers complaint was posted??

...if that time lapse is significant it could be construed that he damaged the model himself in the interim....

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 05:12 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how low some people are willing to go.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:05 PM

Wow Stu, This guy must be a complete tool to get in touch with you after so long. I bet he's dropped it and is now thinking he can try and scam you.

As others have said, Contact eBay straight away.
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:13 PM

Unless it is verboten to do so on this forum, please post the Ebay ID of this buyer so I and others can block him.  I've generally had good luck buying and selling on Ebay, but I have run into a handful of real #$%# that could have caused me a lot of financial pain.  Fortunately there were red flags to alert me from moving forward and taking a bath.  But sometimes you never know, like this character you're dealing with now.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:51 PM

Having spoken to the guy further via email, he's still not gone through Paypal, he has removed the model from its based and now cannot remount it back on the base. Because of this he wants a full refund. What a joker. He even wants me to send him the packaging for him to send the model back in :giggle:

Now I have all the details I'm going to give Paypal a ring and discuss with them
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:39 AM

LOL. Perhaps you should just tell him to use super glue to re-attach.

Hope this get sorted out soon. I hate disputes. Too stressful to handle.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:04 AM

Haha Stu, Thats priceless. Did he send you the message through eBay? If so, Thats pure solid gold proof he is trying to scam/rip you off.
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:12 AM

View PostStu72, on 09 January 2017 - 11:51 PM, said:

Having spoken to the guy further via email, he's still not gone through Paypal, he has removed the model from its based and now cannot remount it back on the base. Because of this he wants a full refund. What a joker. He even wants me to send him the packaging for him to send the model back in :giggle:

Now I have all the details I'm going to give Paypal a ring and discuss with them
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:41 AM

HI
I think he,s trying to pull a fast on you mate,he removed it from the base,and cant get it back
to me he damaged it himself,if it was me I would tell him no refund and leave it at that
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:24 AM

Wow, the nerve. I would stop replying at this point. I'm not sure if there's a self-service option, but you can call ebay and have them block this clown from even contacting you anymore. You can report his as harassing you as well, though I'm not sure if that really does anything helpful for you. I'd try to have him blocked from bothering me at all and forget about it all together. What a goof.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 11:49 AM

Very sorry to hear that Stu. The guy sounds like a complete tool that has no business in this hobby - AT ALL. Hopefully NO money will be exchanged and he can go jump off a cliff and disappear forever.

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 06:13 AM

Any update Stu ?

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 12:19 AM

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Any update Stu ?

yeah, I've not heard anything from the guy in the past few days so I'm hoping he's gone away.

I had hassle most of last week via emails, he couldn't understand why when he removed the model from the base and then damaging it when trying to fix it back to the base ment he could not get a full refund. I told him that he has not getting any refund and I wasn't going to discuss it any further. He came back and then asked if I had another one for sale, the same model, same colour etc. Told him no, and I didn't know who had one for sale. TBH I wouldn't of told him even if I knew, I had a feeling the guy would just scam the seller with the damaged one.

Anyway didn't hear back from the guy for a day, so I thought he'd gone away. I was wrong. He then started messaging me via ebay messages asking if the listing (which he had won back in November) was an aution or could he buy the model. I was like wtf. I ignored the message, but he messaged me every day for 3 days (even though I blocked him he could still message me) asking if the listing was an auction or if he could do a buy it now. I decided to reply and told him there was no model for sale. I've not heard anything back from the guy in two days so I hope he's gone away. If he contacts me again via ebay I'll report him for spam emails and harrassment.

I've since found out that even though I blocked the buyer in my ebay settings, because he had bought an item he can stil message me about that item until the 6 months 'returns/refund' period expires even though he's blocked. He just can't bid on or contact me about any new auction.
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Posted 17 January 2017 - 03:46 AM

Wow is this dude for real ? He sounds like a complete weirdo!

Yeah it's a shame that when you block a bidder they can still message you. Hopefully this dude leaves you alone :hope:

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 06:35 AM

He may of messaged you a few times Stu, But at least you eventually bothered to reply. Makes you the better man in my eyes. If YOU know what I mean.
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