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#1 OFFLINE   Márcio A.A.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 04:38 PM

The model has always been kept in a locked cabinet, along with all my other miniatures, with controlled light, humidity and temperature.

Four years later, the painting of this CMC is as follows:


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Answer from cmc:

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Dear Mr. Araujo de Almeida,

thank you for your request. I’m sorry to have to say that, but unfortunately this
model is totally sold out, so we don’t have any model that we could offer you
as a replacement. Furthermore for us to be able to help you with your complaint,
determined by the system the model have to be bought directly from us.
If this is not the case we recommend to contact the dealer you bought this model from.
We ask for your understanding.



Best Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen
CMC GmbH & Co. KG
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Peter Diller
Export Manager CMC Germany

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 04:41 PM

Holy crap, what is that? 300SL number two? Need to check mine...
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Posted 04 May 2015 - 04:43 PM

You gotta be kidding Márcio.....that is truly disgraceful - I wouldn't let it go with CMC... :gaah:

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:02 PM

Well that is just heartbreaking. I guess I'm kinda glad I put the Autoart version on my wish list instead.
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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:12 PM

WhaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaat!!!!?????? :omg:

That is crazy! I mean, I can't see a CMC colector not being careful enough with the lighting, this is just bad production...I'm going to check mine right away...
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#6 OFFLINE   Márcio A.A.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:22 PM

I didn't take any photo of the engine hood, but it's the only part that is perfect. Because it is not made of zamac..
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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:06 PM

OMG.... :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:  that's unreal. Really sorry to see this rash on such a classic beauty Marcio. Stay on top of CMC - this is their work they should stand up for it and do something. Does your dealer have another one?
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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:37 PM

Sorry to hear about the paint issue on such a beautiful car. Hope you are able to to find a resolution to this :occasion14:

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 07:10 PM

I am sorry. I felt the same thing as I saw it on my BBR 430 months ago. But this Bugatti is really amazing. Don' t get me wrong but even with this level of pest, it will still shine next to my AUTOart or resin stuff. Hopefully you will find a way to resolve this.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 07:47 PM

Well I guess CMC is not so perfect after all, that is some serious paint rash(my bad), I do hope you enjoyed it while it was in top condition, perhaps the autoart is in your future!

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 07:55 PM

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 08:06 PM

That is very disheartening that CMC will hide behind the "since you did not purchase it directly from us, we will do nothing for you". I really thought they would do better than that. I am very sorry for your loss.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 08:19 PM

I'm sorry to see this. . . I truly am. . . I have the same one, I bought it for my 29-th birthday. Beautiful car, I still even have the box in which it was shipped. . .

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 08:45 PM

 wrx_triggerhappy, on 04 May 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

OMG.... :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:  that's unreal. Really sorry to see this rash on such a classic beauty Marcio. Stay on top of CMC - this is their work they should stand up for it and do something. Does your dealer have another one?
I sent them an email. But I doubt that there is some chance.
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Posted 04 May 2015 - 09:19 PM

 b-ry89, on 04 May 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

Sorry to hear about the paint issue on such a beautiful car. Hope you are able to to find a resolution to this :occasion14:
Once CMC said they can't do anything ...
Apparently a polishing will not fix. I used the Ultimate Compound of Meguiar's, but it was not enough. The only solution I see is repainting the model.

 efirlar, on 04 May 2015 - 07:10 PM, said:

I am sorry. I felt the same thing as I saw it on my BBR 430 months ago. But this Bugatti is really amazing. Don' t get me wrong but even with this level of pest, it will still shine next to my AUTOart or resin stuff. Hopefully you will find a way to resolve this.
See this on a BBR is just as bad. :gaah:
In the current situation, I would rather have chosen the model of Autoart or NEO. I'll probably get rid of this CMC and buy a NEO.

 smokeyfan, on 04 May 2015 - 07:47 PM, said:

Well I guess CMC is not so perfect after all, that is some serious zinc pest, I do hope you enjoyed it while it was in top condition, perhaps the autoart is in your future!
Apparently the structure of zamac is okay. The problem seems to be some reaction in the paint, causing the bubbles.
I'm tempted to buy the NEO to replace it. It would be my first resin model. :dunno:

 DC4ME, on 04 May 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

That is very disheartening that CMC will hide behind the "since you did not purchase it directly from us, we will do nothing for you". I really thought they would do better than that. I am very sorry for your loss.
It is ... U$360 on a model that lasted less than four years.
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Posted 04 May 2015 - 09:26 PM

Sad to hear but that's the reason I hardly buy diecasts anymore.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 11:10 PM

This sucks! CMC should stand behind their products like any reputable company does! This is a not a $5 use and throw appliance, its a collectible that should have been made to pre-decided standards. I was considering buying a few of their models from my dealer, but reading this, I would rather spend my money somewhere else.

I wish they read this thread and see the effect their stance is having. Ridiculous!

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 11:26 PM

Woah it looks like the blistering is evenly spread across all panels. That certainly look bad. :bawling: Some of my models suffer from paint blisters but they usually only happen on a small area and never like this. Does the blisters become progressively worse over time?

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 11:36 PM

That looks pretty awful.  Sorry to see this happen to an otherwise fantastic model.  I'd better go and check mine!  If you don't have any luck with the dealer you purchased from, I would suggest contacting CMC again.  Their customer service is generally pretty well regarded so hopefully they can offer some assistance once you've tried the dealer like they suggested.  Computers/TV's etc that cost $'000's generally only come with a 1 year warranty which is pretty woeful.  But I wonder how long a manufacturer should stand behind a collectible like this?  Obviously we would like them to last forever and certainly more than 4 years.  But how long is reasonable to expect?

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 01:45 AM

Gah that's a nightmare! Sorry that it happened to your model Marcio. CMC make good models but I've heard of their paint rash issues. They should definitely help you out, even if you bought it from a dealer in my personal opinion they need to stand behind their product.

Since electronics have been mentioned, at least there we get a warranty in the purchase contract. There is no such thing with diecast and as such this hobby is totally skewed towards the manufacturers. It is somewhat understandable that they themselves are not sure how the models would behave after 5 or 10 years, but then again these are very VERY expensive items and it is HIGH TIME that the big names such as CMC, Exoto, and AUTOart do the proper research in metals and paint to ensure that the finished product basically lasts forever.

When I am buying my models, especially the "high-end" diecast such as CMC, I am damn sure I want to keep it forever, pass it on to my next generation as heirlooms when the time comes. If however I start seeing paint rash or hearing more stories like this I will get out of this hobby. Therefore to keep collectors like me and I assume most of us here the manufacturers should come up with better paints and techniques. And plastic (ABS, resin, whatever) is not the answer if the model is to be called "diecast" :)
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Posted 05 May 2015 - 02:54 AM

Oh man, that's some of the worst I've ever seen!! :bawling:  I'll have to go check mine.

I would press on with CMC, they made it after all. They can't really expect the reseller to take responsibility for its deterioration :twocents:

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 02:57 AM

Such a sad moment :bawling:

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 03:02 AM

 smokeyfan, on 04 May 2015 - 07:47 PM, said:

Well I guess CMC is not so perfect after all, that is some serious zinc pest, I do hope you enjoyed it while it was in top condition, perhaps the autoart is in your future!

Zinc pest is different than paint rash. This case relates to paint rash.
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Posted 05 May 2015 - 03:22 AM

 smokeyfan, on 04 May 2015 - 07:47 PM, said:

Well I guess CMC is not so perfect after all, that is some serious zinc pest, I do hope you enjoyed it while it was in top condition, perhaps the autoart is in your future!

This is not zinc pest. This is paint rash. This is fixable when Zinc pest is sadly not..

Sorry to hear what happened to your CMC. Sadly also my 250GT SWB have that problems. But I sorted it out last year. Now I will have to wait when it will pop up again and if I will have to clear whole car..

Sadly all diecast models which are not cleared will suffer with paint rash problems..

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 04:42 AM

Igor what do you mean by "clearing"? Are you referring to some kind of cleaning?
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