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#1 OFFLINE   Aliev B Esenbek

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 03:12 AM

Can someone please give me any idea how to lift an SUV? I want to buy my first diecast, and I just found a nice SUV, used but in great shape, I want to lift it. Please, any help is appreciated

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 07:20 AM

Nocky?

You out there?

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 02:12 PM

Did I hear someone wants a lift? Lol! Ok, firstly, what is the model you want to lift and what brand is it? Some like Maistos and Motormax models with spring suspension are easy to lift and other brands can vary quite a bit - the hardest ones are the ones that have a fully molded chassis with no separate suspension components. Secondly, do you want the model to "look" lifted or to be "realistically" lifted? And do you want to lift just the suspension or do a body lift instead?

Here are a few ideas for you to consider...

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Edited by Nocky, 24 September 2015 - 02:13 PM.

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#4 OFFLINE   Aliev B Esenbek

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 04:05 PM

Hey, thank you for your reply, I'm thinking to get Autoart Gateway Global 1:18 Diecast Model Car Saturn Vue
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not thinking to get crazy with this build, since I'm noob and never had any experience modding diecast models, my goal is to build light off road vehicle, something like this, but not exact copy, not necessarily
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Posted 25 September 2015 - 12:31 AM

Also I want to purchase this kit Traxxas LaTrax 1/18 SST Slash * SCT TIRES & RED 5 SPOKE WHEELS * 12mm Hex Rims

How do I know what hex size is on my diecast?
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Posted 25 September 2015 - 04:29 PM

Ok I like what you are trying to do :-)

However, those Traxxas wheels are very big - they would be like monster truck tires! I'm trying to find out what size they are.... Here is a link to a video of the truck and you can see at the end how big the tires are when he picks it up....

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=j7pc_OuZMSA

I'll get back to you later with some ideas for wheels....

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 05:24 PM

PS "hex" size is the size of the nut to attach the wheels and diecasts don't use these.

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 05:39 PM

View PostNocky, on 25 September 2015 - 05:24 PM, said:

PS "hex" size is the size of the nut to attach the wheels and diecasts don't use these.

thank you, thanks a lot!! :occasion14:

if nothing available or it is hard to do (lifting) I might as well try lowering it and making a "sports car" lol

Edited by Aliev B Esenbek, 25 September 2015 - 06:00 PM.


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Posted 25 September 2015 - 06:17 PM

There are wheels available, just those ones are too big.

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#10 OFFLINE   Aliev B Esenbek

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 07:01 PM

View PostNocky, on 25 September 2015 - 06:17 PM, said:

There are wheels available, just those ones are too big.
could you please pm me how you find them? All my searching on ebay doesn't give me anything :(

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Posted 26 September 2015 - 03:59 AM

You probably can't find anything on Ebay because there simply aren't any after-market off-road wheels for 1:18th's. However, you can find wheels taken from 1:18th models that you could use and a lot of 1:24th scale wheels work well in 1:18th scale. You can also use wheels from "toys" - especially 1:24th scale RC toys - but the trick is to know what will fit and what won't fit.

Here are some DX threads that show other wheels - you might see something you like there:

http://www.diecastxc...eir-collection/

http://www.diecastxc.../page__hl__jeep

http://www.diecastxc.../page__hl__lift

Now for your project - I think these wheels are just about right - they are So Real TSL Super Swampers..

https://lh3.googleus...IU=w640-h480-no

Now the problem is that these are not made any more - you can still buy some of the So Real trucks and take the wheels off them but they are rare now and go for over $100 US...

These listings are either So Real trucks or the tires (note: these are the Ebay listing numbers - Ebay doesn't allow direct links from DX - so copy the listing number and paste it the into Ebay search box)

So Real TSL Super Swampers

221839548971

So Real '57 Chevy Suburban


331664585377

These tires will also fit on 1:18 rims with some work - Rock Crusher Micro Crawler Tires (Z-T0027)


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Now the photos of the racing Saturn's looks like they probably are not lifted much - mostly just bigger wheels and tires - so you wouldn't need to lift it much.

There are also other 1:24th scale wheels that might work - but hard to know until you see them.

Edited by Nocky, 26 September 2015 - 04:02 AM.

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Posted 26 September 2015 - 01:53 PM

OMG :danke: :danke: :danke: :danke: :danke:  thank you so much !! You really helped me to understand about mods and diecast more than I thought I know, I'll definitely  look all those option and what I can afford at this time and I'll start my thread soon, as soon as I get my diecast and parts :)

Edited by Aliev B Esenbek, 26 September 2015 - 01:54 PM.


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Posted 26 September 2015 - 05:19 PM

Your welcome. Helping others out is what makes DX great!

My advice would be that if you can get the model at a good price then you should go for it. The first step would be to carefully take the model apart. That way you can work on the bits you want to change and you can also understand how the model is put together. Take photos of each stage and make sure you have a container to keep all the screws and small parts in!

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 02:30 AM

View PostAliev B Esenbek, on 25 September 2015 - 12:31 AM, said:

Also I want to purchase this kit Traxxas LaTrax 1/18 SST Slash * SCT TIRES & RED 5 SPOKE WHEELS * 12mm Hex Rims

How do I know what hex size is on my diecast?
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Hey there, I also looked at this wheel/tyre combo with the intention of modding one one my Landies with them - but they are about 100mm outside diameter - that would make it about a 72" diameter tyre in real life. :twocents:

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 10:25 PM

Hey Nocky, I just received my Saturn, it is in great shape :) Lucky me  I guess, since seller posted it as "OK" condition, couldn't find any issues with it, so anyway, my question is if I buy those So Real TSL Super Swampers, can I still mount them over my stock wheels?
And again, I might found the way to lift rear, by replacing struts and getting longer springs, but what to do with fronts?
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Unfortunately I can't visit forum's store sub-forum since I need to be active member at least for 90 days and have over 300 posts.... it locked for me

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View PostAliev B Esenbek, on 25 September 2015 - 12:31 AM, said:

Also I want to purchase this kit Traxxas LaTrax 1/18 SST Slash * SCT TIRES & RED 5 SPOKE WHEELS * 12mm Hex Rims

How do I know what hex size is on my diecast?
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Hey there, I also looked at this wheel/tyre combo with the intention of modding one one my Landies with them - but they are about 100mm outside diameter - that would make it about a 72" diameter tyre in real life. :twocents:

Yeah, lol I figured that hahah :) they are too big, in fact wheels on 1/18 seem to small for me... only one question, WHY, WHY 1/18 isn't that popular when it comes to aftermarket parts? 1/24 scale has millions of different options, but 1/18 :(

Edited by Aliev B Esenbek, 28 September 2015 - 10:26 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 03:03 AM

Indont think the Superswampers will fit over the stock rims... Just to check, can you measure the diameter of the rim and the diameter of the tire? In millimeters if you can :-)

I think the bottom suspension strut will come off as one piece. It should then be possible to add some extra material to lift the front wheels (like you suggested with the rear wheels). Another way to do it would be to cut each strut where it joins the chassis - you can see where they have made a hinge that shows in the moulding?

If i was doing this, my next step would be to remove the chassis from the body (look for screws in the underside of the chassis) and then carefully take apart all the suspension components and remove the wheels.

Note: when removing the chassis, dont force it too much! Sometimes there are hidden screws, they might br in th wheel arches or are sometimes cover by a part if the chassis like the exhaust system...

I think the wheels should pop off with some careful tugging... Emphasis on careful!

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 09:59 PM

I found a set of wheels from 1/24 Jada, crawler tires and rims, exact same width and height as stock wheels
(1 1/2 inch) 38 mm height and  (1/2 inch) 12.7mm width (approximately)
Still looking for better a bit bigger, yet more budget friendly  options, but unfortunately  anything bigger than that will not fit or will look terrible without proper lift..... maybe over the weekend I'll find some time to disassemble it and see what I can do....

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 01:35 AM

Hang in there! My advice is not to rush it. I'll see if i can measure the SoReal tires i have tomorrow. Have a look at this thread - it has another member that is looking for wheels...and has lots of measurements.

http://www.diecastxc...eir-collection/


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 01:38 AM

Thanks man, I'll be waiting, the wheels I purchased I can leave for some other diecasts :) I'll be waiting :)

The link you posted not available for me :( due to being noob

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 01:54 AM

Ahh ok... No worries then. I'll measure the wheels tomorrow.

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 07:47 AM

Can you help me?
I wanted to lift my Hummer H2 by Maisto

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 12:49 PM

Sure! H2's are easy to lift.. Have a look at the likes I posted above and the one the shows about fitting Superswapers to a Jeep shows how to lift it too. Your Maisto H2 can be lifted in the same way... Once you have checked that out you can ask me further questions ;-) I have a lifted H2 so I can show you more details too if needed. Cheers



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