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#1 OFFLINE   lateapex

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 12:13 PM

So, I was doing some of these again for a car, and thought to myself that I wished I knew how easy and cheap it is to do this a long time ago, and voila why not make a sort-of-tutorial. So many cars (even some high end Autoart Signature models!) have cheap, plastic looking seat belts. While that is ridiculous, I will rage some about that in a more suiting thread(s). :giggle:

The kit I am using here is from Tremonia and cost 4 euros on ebay. There are several types, racing, street, etc.

Skill level required is low, I am doing it after all. :occasion14:  These are the tools I use:

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Side cutter to free bits from the photoetch plate (the cutter in the picture is really bad and I hate it), I cant remember the English word for the thing in the middle, but thats obviously to hold the tiny photoetch pieces that have been clipped free while filing away excess, and the Tamiya Diamond file (my most beloved tool) for careful filing away the little stubbs that remain after cutting the pieces free. Thats it. Oh, and some glue.

Here I have cut out the parts I will be using. The seat brackets etc wont be used this time, but they are really nice.
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Bits have been cleaned up with the file:
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Then its all about threading the needle, it can be a bit tricky to get the fabric through the gaps on the seat adjusters. Its best to plan a little by holding it against the seat along the way to see what distance you need, as its very hard to move the adjusters once you have gone over/under through the little adjusters, as that creates tension. Here is one of the main belts. I just glue the end to the underside after going through the final buckle. As you can see I missed a bit and a tiny piece of fabric is sticking out on the underside, but thats easy to clip away with the side cutter.
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Test fit:
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Then I just use the first one as a template for the second one so they line up reasonably well. Its useful (lesson learned, lol) to leave some extra length and then cut away unneeded length in the end, as the fabric can sometimes splice(?) pretty badly by being forced through the sharp photoetch bits, so I often cut of a tiny part before going through the next one.
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All bits done, and compared to the original plastic thing:
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Voila! Only missing decals, that I dont have yet. The ones that come with the kit are wrong in this case, and also have misspelled brands for legal reasons I guess.
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I had a glue accident at the lower front of the seat, but that wont be visible anyway. Good enough! My eternal motto. :nice:

Hope it inspires someone to ditch the plastic!

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 01:12 PM

Excellent tutorial and great pictures!  :eusa_clap:   What do you use for fabric? Or is that included in the kit?

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 01:56 PM

View Postschuifelhoofd, on 11 November 2015 - 01:12 PM, said:

Excellent tutorial and great pictures!  :eusa_clap:   What do you use for fabric? Or is that included in the kit?

Would also like to know this.  Looks like some common ribbon from a craft store, but would like to know the width.

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 01:57 PM

Brilliant tutorial Latepex.... :10:  

BTW, love this...

View Postlateapex, on 11 November 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

Skill level required is low, I am doing it after all. :occasion14:  

Yeah, right!!! :giggle:    but this is true....

View Postlateapex, on 11 November 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

Hope it inspires someone to ditch the plastic!

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 02:13 PM

View PostFalango, on 11 November 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

View Postschuifelhoofd, on 11 November 2015 - 01:12 PM, said:

Excellent tutorial and great pictures!  :eusa_clap:   What do you use for fabric? Or is that included in the kit?

Would also like to know this.  Looks like some common ribbon from a craft store, but would like to know the width.

I use these same tremonia kits in all my models makes a huge difference especially if you add carpet too,

and Yes the ribbon is included and you can pick which colour you want (red, blue, yellow & black)

These are from my Maisto R8 GT

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And these from my welly GT3 RS

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 07:59 PM

View Postlateapex, on 11 November 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

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"I cant remember the English word for the thing in the middle, but thats obviously to hold the tiny photoetch pieces that have been clipped free while filing away excess"
Great tutorial. Did you mean "Bent Nose Pliers"? :occasion14:

View PostFalango, on 11 November 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

Would also like to know this.  Looks like some common ribbon from a craft store, but would like to know the width.
I have done up some racing harnesses from Tremonia as well. Those ribbons are 3mm in width. :nice:

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 10:02 PM

View Postlateapex, on 11 November 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:


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Look at those... those are soooo tiny and cute!!!

Great tutorial mate... makes it really simple to follow. And i wish we have more of these tutorials to do mods. I have at least a dozen models i dont want to ditch but need DIY fixing. I hope i can master up the courage to start on these slowly.

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 06:54 AM

View Posttechnica, on 11 November 2015 - 07:59 PM, said:

Did you mean "Bent Nose Pliers"? :occasion14:

Hehe, yes!


Thanks, guys! Sorry that I forgot to mention that the kits do indeed come with the fabric ribbons, just choose colour. For street cars one kit is enough for two seats, some of the racing/track ones too. That includes photoetch parts. This particular kit is one seat only.

Lukesal87, your Maisto R8 GT pic is a PERFECT example of how much it can improve the look. Mein gott, those stock seatbelts might be the worst I have seen. Norev make some pretty awful ones, but wow that is something else.

Happy to see there was some interest in this. Often when people say somethign is easy, its easy because they are insanly skilled, but this really is easy. A bit fiddly at worst.

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 09:53 AM

Nice little upgrade there, plastic harnesses look complete rubbish :gaah:  If I had the time I'd like to upgrade a few of my models.

Even OTTO use this sort of thing on their models - so other manufacturers should take note!

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 03:11 PM

I use the tremonia seat belt for a RE20 from exoto (because I buy the car with defects,dont have the seat belts)

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:47 PM

Great tutorial! Still beyond my skill level though...

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:51 PM

View Postws6_22, on 12 November 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

I use the tremonia seat belt for a RE20 from exoto (because I buy the car with defects,dont have the seat belts)

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Better than the originals Alej! :10: :twocents:

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 08:37 AM

Now this is a nice upgrade looks so much nicer

Will be buying some of these belt kits to mod some cars during the cold winter days ...

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 08:34 AM

I just wanted to clarify:

Are these photo-etched seat belt buckles produced for 1/18 model cars or is it for something else? Are there particular shops and/or brands you'd suggest we can find them at?

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 10:48 AM

Yes, 1/18 kits made specifically to upgrade model cars. There are probably several options, but the ones seen on this page are made by Tremonia. I get them on ebay.

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 01:23 PM

Nice tutorial! I have some of these belts too... You can also order them direct from tremonia.org though his eBay site is just as good. They have lots of other PE stuff too.

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 04:49 AM

Nice Tutorial, might have to try a kit, you make it look easy, hopefully i don't end up putting them on the roof :dunno:

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 05:50 PM

I'm digging here... Great Tutorial, thanks!!!

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 03:16 AM

Very good information. After seeing this i ordered two sets from Tremonia site. Andre is really nice chap. He even refunded 60 euro cents after payment, because shipping was cheaper than initial calculations :)

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:30 AM

An old thread I know, but what sort of glue is best for gluing fabric seat belt material?  I've tried superglue, but it can bleed through to the front and doesn't look good.  I was even thinking of using a fine red thread and a needle to sew them in place.
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Posted 21 September 2017 - 08:05 AM

I just use normal Loctite (since I am lazy) but you can also get superglue in gel form.

Any glue will work I think, but with superglue you dont have to wait for ages and mount the parts in some kind of clamp, etc.

Btw, I wouldnt use superglue straight from the canister for anything, too easy to flood the area. I put some on a piece of paper or whatever and apply on the part with a toothpick (the plastic kind is best I think).

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:21 PM

Thanks, I shall spread a very thin layer on using a scrap of paper.
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Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:03 AM

this is my last work with tremonia,seat belts,I bought the cloth t it in a haberdashery, it was white,with black paint and water I leave it black

the original seat

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the seat belts

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in the cockpit

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and finally in the car

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:25 AM

Very nice Alej
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