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#26 OFFLINE   ferrariforever

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 09:47 AM

Hi guys,

Sorry to dig up this thread. But I just noticed that my Autoart Ford Himalaya has a broke rim (almost all spokes are broken). Since the rim has chrome finish, what kind of glue do you recommend to bond the spokes? I presume the Tamiya cement glue would run into the crack, but would it harm the chrome finish?
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Posted 18 January 2019 - 10:03 AM

It depends on the technique used to plate the rim in the first place.
Low emission (non fogging) CA glue should not cause problems, and you will need to hold the spokes in position while the glue is drying.
Plastic 'cement' is slow to set and cure properly, and some swear the bond is stronger.
In my experience there is no real difference if CA glue is used correctly (don't use too much or you may get leakage).

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 05:03 AM

Thanks. I don't know how AUTOart chrome plated the rims.
Besides the Tamiya cement, and the CA glue. I have some experience with the white wood glue. I have successfully used the wood glue to fix a broke wiper. But I guess it's hard to apply the wood glue or the CA glue to the spokes since not all of them are broken (4 of 5 are broken), so it's not possible for me to take them apart, apply glue, then, put it back.
That's why I thought the Tamiya cement glue may be the best option as it runs into the crack. But just not sure about possible effect on the chrome.
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Posted 19 January 2019 - 07:33 AM

 ferrariforever, on 19 January 2019 - 05:03 AM, said:

Thanks. I don't know how AUTOart chrome plated the rims.
Besides the Tamiya cement, and the CA glue. I have some experience with the white wood glue. I have successfully used the wood glue to fix a broke wiper. But I guess it's hard to apply the wood glue or the CA glue to the spokes since not all of them are broken (4 of 5 are broken), so it's not possible for me to take them apart, apply glue, then, put it back.
That's why I thought the Tamiya cement glue may be the best option as it runs into the crack. But just not sure about possible effect on the chrome.
If you can work out a way to clamp the spokes while the cement is drying, that's a decent option.
'Cement' melts both faces of a joint, fusing them.  
Wood/PVA/White glue is not a good option here, I would not use it on stressed joints (it will need to support the weight of the model).
If you can remove the wheel, it will give you the best potential to align the broken spokes.
Thin lengths of metal (such as pins) could also be used to add bracing across the rear of the joints, CA being the only option there.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 11:05 AM

Contacta glue would work quite well here as you have already exposed the bare plastic. It will bond the two bare faces quite well. I Don't recommend super glue in this case
From memory it wont damage the chrome finish but someone might correct me?

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 01:00 PM

Contacta clear will work fine, the only problem is that it takes so long to set, if you can line it all up and keep in place till it sets fully it'll be fine. I don't think it will take the chrome off at all.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 03:19 PM

Thanks guys a lot for the information. I have been watching some youtube video's of Tamiya extra thin cement and Revell contacta. Apparently both glues can cause haze on transparent parts. So I'm worried about the haze on the chrome part.
It seems like the only glue that won't damage the chrome or leave marks on the chrome is wood glue. Do you think so too?
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Posted 21 January 2019 - 03:43 PM

Contacta clear doesn't haze, it dries clear too - that's exactly why it's used. The extra thin cement is a pain to use, it's super runny & only really designed to get into places that are hard to glue.
I don't know about wood glue.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 08:01 AM

Wood glue won't work as it won't get in the gap between the spokes and wheel. Use Tamiya extra thin cement. It hazes clear parts, but your wheels aren't clear! :dunno:

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:53 AM

 Guiddy, on 22 January 2019 - 08:01 AM, said:

Wood glue won't work as it won't get in the gap between the spokes and wheel. Use Tamiya extra thin cement. It hazes clear parts, but your wheels aren't clear! :dunno:

Yes first I also thought the Tamiya extra thin cement would be the most suitable one because 1 of the 5 spokes is currently still attached to the outer rim, so I cannot take apart the central part of the rim from the outer part without breaking that 1 spoke. Thus the running of the glue into the crack would actually be beneficial, But the rim is chrome plated on the outside, so I was afraid that the haze would maybe create a dull part on the chrome.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:13 AM

I think you're going to have to break that last one off, then glue all of it, otherwise it'll be hard to do.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:50 AM

Craft stores often sell tiny wooden clothes pegs (I think they're for dolls houses) which could be used as bridging clamps while the glue is drying.
I use such things for all kinds of projects, and wood usually does not damage well cured paint - such as the chrome on your wheel spokes.
Example here: https://www.ebay.ie/...bDB7p:rk:5:pf:0

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:17 AM

 slartibartfast229, on 23 January 2019 - 08:50 AM, said:

Craft stores often sell tiny wooden clothes pegs (I think they're for dolls houses) which could be used as bridging clamps while the glue is drying.
I use such things for all kinds of projects, and wood usually does not damage well cured paint - such as the chrome on your wheel spokes.
Example here: https://www.ebay.ie/...bDB7p:rk:5:pf:0

thanks for the link. I'm actually not worries about fixing the inner rim and the outer rim once the glue is applied, but the glue itself that can evaporate and haze the chrome on the rim.
Some glue haze more than other. So far from what I see in Youtube video's it seems like the wood glue would not haze at all. The Tamiya extra thin and the Revell Contacta maybe a bit. The normal cement glue would haze a lot.
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 01:13 AM

Late to the party but try this stuff

https://deluxemateri...ts/glue-n-glaze

I've found it great for attaching photo etch, windows, trim, mirrors etc

Otherwise this where you need a superglue that doesn't fog

https://deluxemateri...roket-odourless
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:48 AM

That stuff looks good!

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:29 AM

 Craig, on 24 January 2019 - 06:48 AM, said:

That stuff looks good!

It is mate. Been using their products for a few years now
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