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#1 OFFLINE   preisman

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 10:30 PM

There is nothing better in life than a rally Porsche. The idea of taking the best sports car ever and taking off road is something that brings me nothing other than joy.

This particular Porsche raced in the 1981 San Remo Rally, had gearbox issues, did not finish. Still awesome, though!

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#2 OFFLINE   slartibartfast229

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 06:17 AM

Nice photo shoot.
You could maybe explain the products produced by the primary sponsor!
Items that could probably not be any further from motorsport.....   :danke:

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 07:31 AM

View Postslartibartfast229, on 31 May 2020 - 06:17 AM, said:

Nice photo shoot.
You could maybe explain the products produced by the primary sponsor!
Items that could probably not be any further from motorsport.....   :danke:

Can't say I've ever heard of the company. But, a good sponsor story is always fun.

Thanks!

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 08:30 AM

Eminence - at the time of the rally - specialised in religious clothing, such as would be worn by priests.....

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 04:16 PM

Congrats Jonathan, that's a really neat piece! :eusa_clap:
I love seeing bunkers mindset that takes a high performance road & track car turned completely on it's head and retooled for another purpose in life. :yahoo: That said, this looks interesting, as it sits lower compared to the other factory ran 911 rallye cars! I like it and all of the other recent 911 postings that you've been doing over the past few weeks! :occasion14:

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 04:37 PM

I wonder why it has three exhausts?
The 911SC wasn't turbocharged.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 01:52 AM

Aren't the 3 exhausts usually uneven sized (two big and one small)?

I've not been able to find any photos clearly showing the exhausts on the car in period

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 03:34 AM

Looks like a really nice model.

@D N'D-Land, the 81 San Remo was a mix of tarmac and gravel, the ride height looks fine - my only criticism would be that the wheels should be tucked further into the arches, both front and rear.  That's what would really kill the suspension travel, the tyres getting cut to shreds by the arch lips!

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@snowman, there is a video here where you can briefly see the back of the car with the two equally sized tailpipes on the left (at 1:13, vid should start there).  There is an explanation in the comments on this video.  Quoting:

"the three tail pipes setup goes back to the 1970-1971 era when the 911ST was introduced by the factory as a test bed for several different engines under development (2.0-2.5 liter). This model only lasted for two years with less than 20 built. This was a light weight version (2163 lbs) that was tested on the roads in many European rallies, some of which had maximum sound levels allowed as these rallies passed through towns. Thus the three pipe system was conceived, the stock pipe open and twin straight pipes CAPPED to reduce the sound level. When the sound was not an issue, the two pipes were uncapped, and the stock one was CAPPED, allowing the the engine to breath freely. To my knowledge, the three pipes were never all uncapped at the same time."

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 07:10 AM

An interesting explanation about the exhausts, forgive me if I just can't help having some doubts.  :adore:
Thing is though, almost all competition cars of this era ran with open exhausts - and many would have been just as loud.
And cars would be required to drive through villages between special stages.
Then there's the additional weight, at the rear of an already tail heavy car.....

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 07:55 AM

Maybe so, but most competition cars weren't driven on public roads.  Rally cars have to comply with local laws when they're being driven between stages.  There's more discussion of the arrangement on this site.  One of the posters there describes a similar system found on a roadgoing SC as a "rally" exhaust.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 12:44 PM

One thing I love about collecting race cars is reading the history of the drivers, cars, and races.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 01:22 PM

I can only reference rallying in Ireland as first hand experience.
Cars were driven off stages and onto public roads.
Often times these were using slicks, but since the majority were 'foreign' registered, the cops didn't bother hassling them.
The more so since the local government officials were delighted with the invasion of thirsty and hungry rally fans.
And the tourist publicity it generated, even if this meant noisy rally cars driving here and there during the day.
In Ireland most pubs were owner operated, and many were also hotels and meeting places.
If you were a 'guest' or 'club member' you could drink all night behind closed doors if the owner permitted.
I know this from first hand experience....
It also helped that the local cops or members of their family owned these pubs.
I don't want you to think we Irish drink lots of alcohol, or that we have a laissez faire attitude to the 'rules of the road'. :twocents:

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 06:36 PM

Very good looking model, who makes this one?  Driven by a motorsport legend as well, perhaps a lesser known rally car of Mr Rohrl but a great subject nonetheless.  Porsche 911, the car that can do almost everything.

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 07:25 PM

View Postsamx5, on 01 June 2020 - 06:36 PM, said:

Very good looking model, who makes this one?  Driven by a motorsport legend as well, perhaps a lesser known rally car of Mr Rohrl but a great subject nonetheless.  Porsche 911, the car that can do almost everything.

The model is from Otto. It is an older release but plenty out there.




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