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#1 OFFLINE   MysticCollector89

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 05:52 PM

Hi everyone!
I've been seeing alot of people putting carbon fiber decals on their cars and I really want to know where I can buy them online. Same with the flocking, I really want to put carpeting on some of my models. I'd appreciate it if you guys could lead me to websites where I can buy those 2 things. Even better if I could get both things from one website since that will save me shipping costs.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 01:23 PM

I've bought my carbon on http://www.minicars-collection.fr

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:19 AM

Was going to start my own thread but thought this might be the best route since it was already posted here.  I spent some time on another forum earlier (gasp) since DX was down.  I found a couple customs that the OP used some really nice carbon fiber decals and was curious where they were from but the thread yielded no details.  I don't have an account there so I couldn't ask directly.  I'm kind of picky on certain details and carbon fiber is one of them. The worse thing is when it looks like obvious fake sticker. (out of scale, wrong color, poor quality)

What is THE BEST carbon fiber decal out there for 1:18?  Pictures help a lot so if possible, provide lots of information and/or examples.  Thanks.  


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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:40 AM

in my opinion, scale-motorsport carbon composite decals are the best. they come in a range of colours and 3 scales..heres a pic of what it looks like:

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and here's where you get it: http://store.scalemo...Category_Code=4

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 01:21 AM

Which scale was that?

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 01:30 PM

MysticCollector89 - try ebay for flocking - check the Toys&Hobbies/Models&Kits/Automotive  category, search "flocking".

the carbon fiber stuff is there, too, but I agree that it's hard to find the right scale that doesn't look like a sticker with a huge weave pattern. The hood of the red car that seby123 is showing looks as close to correct as anything I've seen.  

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 01:44 PM

View PostSeby123, on 24 January 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

in my opinion, scale-motorsport carbon composite decals are the best. they come in a range of colours and 3 scales..heres a pic of what it looks like:

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and here's where you get it: http://store.scalemo...Category_Code=4

That looks awesome, the website doesnt have 1:18.  :wavetowel2:
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 01:57 PM

View PostPrelude2Elude, on 28 January 2011 - 01:44 PM, said:

That looks awesome, the website doesnt have 1:18.  :wavetowel2:
I would assume that the decal used in that picture is 1:24 as it looks much smaller than others I have seem people use scaled at 1:18. Its funny because if that is 1:24 it looks much more accurate than the 1:18 decals. Im guessing the 1:18 carbon decals are bigger so you can see the weave better and not necessarily geared towards accuracy
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 12:53 AM

I was looking on their site to see how much shipping would be... turns out their warehouse is about 3 miles from me? I emailed the owner and asked him if I could swing by because they usually dont sell anything on site but he said hed make an exception so it looks like Ill be getting a few sheets of carbon fiber soon   :wavetowel2:
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 09:58 AM

View Postimitenotbecrazy, on 29 January 2011 - 12:53 AM, said:

I was looking on their site to see how much shipping would be... turns out their warehouse is about 3 miles from me? I emailed the owner and asked him if I could swing by because they usually dont sell anything on site but he said hed make an exception so it looks like Ill be getting a few sheets of carbon fiber soon   :wavetowel2:

Post up pics when you do.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 01:07 PM

Carbon Fiber in scale is quite a tricky subject. The reason why is that different companies use different material in real life. What is on the steering wheel of an Enzo is not the same as what its rear hood is made from and completely different in pattern AND size from what is on Zondas. As far as I know, no one makes 1:18 scale exactly, but that is perfectly fine. I have used on 1:18 models anything from 1:24 to 1:12 scale. and in different patterns. I absolutely have to praise scalemotorsport's decals, which is what I use.

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On this last picture is a perfect demonstration of difference in scale put to use to create realism. On the real Zonda the weave is positioned in certain direction and two different sizes are used. To replicate it in 1;18 1:20 and 1;12 are used

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 03:57 PM

I've never even considered that.  Thanks for the insight.  :occasion14:

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 04:36 PM

View PostBlitz, on 31 January 2011 - 03:57 PM, said:

I've never even considered that.  Thanks for the insight.  :occasion14:

No problem.
What do you need to cover in CF? Maybe I can help you. I mean put it on for you.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 05:37 PM

Different things.  Mainly I want to dress up some interiors of my Ferraris and Lamborghinis.  Maybe on a spoiler or engine compartment.  Just a small amount of contrasting detail.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:18 PM

View PostBlitz, on 31 January 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:

Different things.  Mainly I want to dress up some interiors of my Ferraris and Lamborghinis.  Maybe on a spoiler or engine compartment.  Just a small amount of contrasting detail.

OK. send me the pieces and material and I'll apply them for you. If you want of course. what Ferrari interiors are you talking about?

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:11 PM

458 Italia.  I will try it.  Thanks for the offer.  My issue is that the only available type we have here is Scale Motorsport.  I've seen a few others that looked (seemingly) better.  Of course, everything is deceiving in internet photos.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:31 PM

Blitz,

We're going to tackle this together lol.  I'm doing the interior of a Hot Wheels F430 right now.  I absolutely hate applying decals.  Tomorrow I have to go pick up a package at the post office that has my microset and microsol and I've been reading every tutorial possible to be as efficient as possibly using small decals.

Good luck dude!  I know I'm gonna say a few chosen curse words and down a few beers when I tackle the interior on mine lol.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:41 PM

Which F430?

I've used Scale Motorsport and Microsol/Microset before.  The main trick is patience, a steady hand and more patience.  I've been looking at all the different carbon fiber pics around DX and I'm going to try my hand at adding some CF where the brushed silver normally is.  I'm using my black 458 as practice for some other work too.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:02 PM

I love doing interiors.
Here is some blue CF I made for a Hamann F430.

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 11:32 AM

Since we're posting interior shots (don't mind the floorboards tan showing thru...it's getting fixed....

Not near as good as the examples above, but I'm improving each day lol.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 04:12 PM

What method do you guys use to apply carbon decals? Do you use some sort of adhesive to get it to stick or water like some other decals?
Any particular tools or hints that can help me out?

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 07:33 PM

Since this is obviously very interesting to a lot of people I guess I will make a tutorial about it. I just don't know where to post it. Do it in this thread or start a new one? Also should it be in this section or the "custom models"?

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:20 PM

Maybe you could ask the admins to let the topic stay pinned in this section after you publish it.  It certainly would be of a lot of interest to many here, myself included. I've dabbled with it a few times, with mixed results.. I hate getting it wrong and blowing thru a sheet of the stuff with very little to show for it.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:55 PM

This is a bit of an old topic, but did you ever make a tutorial mrm?

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:05 PM

View PostAlpha91, on 09 April 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

This is a bit of an old topic, but did you ever make a tutorial mrm?

Well I, honestly I had totally forgotten about it, but thanks for bringing it up.
I did use some pictures from when I was making the white 360 Hamann.

So lets start with the door panels
Because of the way the surfaces are, you have a choice of doing it two different ways. You can cover the entire face of the door (the alu part) with one piece and then create another pice for the sides of the panel. Or you can make one pice of the face that will curve on the side and then a second piece that would curve on the other side. I chose to do the second, as it will create just one smaller "joint" that would be easier to align.
So first I make a template from masking tape

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and then transfer it on the cf decal sheet.

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Once on the door the decal is left to dry a little , which will also soften it slightly. The it is brushed with solvaset which is a chemical that really softens the decal and let it stretch. You have to be careful as too much of this and your decal will just dissolve.
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Once soft I start bending it to the door shape using a sovaset soaked brush and try to get all the bubbles out. It is a long and painstaking process, that I hate.

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Once you are done with conforming the decal to the shape you are applying to, I use a hairdryer to get the decal dry and all the solvent to go away. This will shrink the decal and make it appear like painted on the part. You overdo it and it is ruined and you have to start over. Once you are happy with your first part of decal, you apply the second part. And you go through all the steps again. Just make sure that the first piece has fully cured first.

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and then you have a nice carbon fiber trim on your door.

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Next - more complicated surfaces.

Any questions are more than welcome.

Edited by mrm, 09 April 2012 - 04:07 PM.




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