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Even as a kid during the 1980s, I always knew that Alfa Romeo automobiles were special. There was something about how their cars represented something sporty blended with luxury, almost like Maserati, but not expensive. I personally felt like Alfa Romeos were stylish, especially during the early to mid 80s. I loved that you could see that it was an Italian automobile, it just felt different compared to say, something from Germany or the UK, Alfas felt more emotional and original.

While the mid-1980s "jellybean" era of design started, the Italians and French kept their cars more in the line of "architecture" (so to say with a blockier/stacking design philosophy) . Normally, that would have been called "dated" but Alfa Romeo knew how to finesse modern, but geometric like bodies into an attractive form during this time period.
One car really caught my attention in 1987, The Alfa Romeo 164. I felt like it was a pretty car, but it also looked powerful, something that a top executive would drive. I loved the broad high band rear taillight bar, the massive and racked back front lights and the iconic Alfa Romeo triangle "V" on the nose of the hood/bonnet. For me, the car had a handsome and chunky profile, like a big boss or someone doing well in life would drive to show that they aren't a boring person by adding some Italian "zest" to their lives.
Yeah, that was my thinking as an adolescence. As I got older, I found out that a lot of my favorite cars where headaches for their owners, being it Jaguar/Alfa/Maserati/Peugeot. I'd hear the grown ups complaining about how bad quality or reliability they were, along with huge loses in value. So, the same people would eventually buy a Benz, BMW, Volvo, Saab or Toyota Cressida, which eventually turned into them buying Lexus Automobiles (Mainly for reliability). That said, most of those mentioned brands ultimately ended up leaving the both of the North American markets in the late 80s/early 90s unfortunately(US & Canada).

The Alfa Romeo 164 & Milano (75 to the rest of the world) held on for a little bit into the 90s. New car wise, I was devastated as Alfa Romeo ended up leaving the US before the then new Alfa Romeo GTV Coupe/Cabriolet debuted. Alfa stayed gone until the mid-2010s ultimately coming back to North America!

I am so glad that Triple9 stoked my childhood memories in fully diecast metal 1/18th scale miniatures with working steering. Again, Triple9 have done a really good job nailing the overall shape of the 1/1 facelifted 1994 Alfa 164 Q4 spec'd cars. Actually, Triple9 have done such a good job, that I couldn't decide between "Alfa Red" or "Proteo Red Metallic", so both colors found their way into my collection. I feel like each color give both models a different attitude. Clearly the "Proteo Red Met." shows that it is the Phase II facelifted car, with body colored lower cladding and bumpers....whereas; the "Alfa Red" 164 plays up the original 1987's two-toned debut color combinations in feeling. I love'em! I'm so glad that Triple9 gave us a plethora of color choices from the get-go! Additionally, the Proteo Red Met. 164 version have a high contrast light colored beige/black interior combination, whereas the Alfa Red 164 has a standard black interior. Both interiors appearing adequately detailed. However, both of these model are sealed, so unfortunately I am only pepping through it's windows to get a glace at what's inside. I'd like to see Triple9 "pull a Solido" and at least give us an opening doors. However, as with my Triple9 Volvo 960, turn either Alfa over and WHOA!...they both have very detailed chassis! Just imagine what their models would be like if they had opening body shells detail wise!
My only complaints about these two Alfa 164 miniatures are, that the part or panel lines needs to be deeper. The paint over-fills those gaps on mine, so they can be a bit faint in places (Especially the hood/bonnet part lines). I also planned on adding "Tamiya Panel Line" gap paint, but, these lines were too shallow to apply any paint. Second, Triple9 needs to work on their QC. Some of the lower black painted areas on both models didn't always stay within their borders.
That's it! If you have an opportunity check these out, they aren't expensive and if you like or love old Alfas, such as myself, you will be thrilled looking at these on your shelves!

I look with great anticipation for Triple9's next releases, especially as one will be my very first 1/1 car, in Euro specification via Audi 100! Totally can't wait to add that one.

1/18 1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Alfa Red/Proteo Red Metallic.....by Triple9
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Wow great review along with beautiful photos. Really gives a great perspective on the models. Thanks
Hey Matthew! Thanks my friend! Really glad that you liked my pics. I know that it's not your type of car, but I just love these old sport-barges! CHEERS! 🥂 😊
 

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Those Alfas look really sharp Dave! Thanks for posting the write up and the photos!
I noticed you used a different background this time for your shots. I actually like these Alfa 164 a lot and considered buying the grey one, but I ended up ordering the T9 Volvo 960 first. Due to budgetary reason this Alfa will have to come at later time. Like the Volvo, for sealed models, I am impressed with the interior finishing and undercarriage. And best of all, no wavy side windows like most resin models! I really enjoyed looking at these photos while having breakfast now :)

Like yourself, I am glad T9 is making these 90's European sedans. I would be happy if they also make the Mercedes W126 sedan!
 

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Love it, absolutely love the 164. It will always have a special place in my heart. Back in 1990 we had to replace Mum's orange Peugeot 504 and the family went car shopping. We test drove everything from the newly released Subaru Liberty, Mercedes 190E, BMW 320i and even the Jeep Cheroke. But after seeing and experiencing the 164, we were all smitten. Arriving at school, surrounded by the obligatory German and Japanese marques the Alfa was exotic, elegant and sounded incredible. Eventually the 164 left the family to be replaced many years later by an Audi S5. I still look out for our Alfa 164 'DWA 642' and these pictures ableit in 1/18 scale bring back some great memories. Thanks for the ride, gotta shop now on ebay for a red 164!
 

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Thanks for bringing up the review on the newest Triple9 release so soon David. I am still waiting on mine. I ordered the metallic red one. Somehow I am not used to seeing the 164 in two tone paint.

Agreed about the shallow panel lines. They dont look too convincing tbh. My two other former Tripl9 models, silver Civic EF and KPGC10 GTR all had similar shortcoming and I sold them off eventually.
 

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Excellent pics that really show the crispness of the 164’s shape. It was such a striking looking car at launch and still is today. I hope someone makes the pre-facelift non QV version; I’m not a huge fan of the body kit. But happy to 164 love :)
 

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Those Alfas look really sharp Dave! Thanks for posting the write up and the photos!
I noticed you used a different background this time for your shots. I actually like these Alfa 164 a lot and considered buying the grey one, but I ended up ordering the T9 Volvo 960 first. Due to budgetary reason this Alfa will have to come at later time. Like the Volvo, for sealed models, I am impressed with the interior finishing and undercarriage. And best of all, no wavy side windows like most resin models! I really enjoyed looking at these photos while having breakfast now :)

Like yourself, I am glad T9 is making these 90's European sedans. I would be happy if they also make the Mercedes W126 sedan!
Thanks Stefanus! I love these type of emotional memory posts!
Yes, I changed some things up for this photo shoot, glad that you noticed it. I also almost gave into the light grey version with red interior, it also looks GORGEOUS! If I were made of money, I'd have that one as well 😊 Looking forward to your 960 review, I know how much that car means to you! YES!!!, no wavy resin/acetate style thing plastic windows here! So, we do get a much better vantage point into the rather well detailed Triple 9 interiors! Thanks brother! I am so glad that my pics didn't make you ill while eating breakfast!!! ;):LOL:..they are a bit different from my usual.

Yes, Triple9 are also making the Alfa Romeo 155 as well. I'd like to see them make a 90s GTV Coupe! That car was GORGEOUS! So, no Norev W126 for you then? Cheers!🥂
 

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Love it, absolutely love the 164. It will always have a special place in my heart. Back in 1990 we had to replace Mum's orange Peugeot 504 and the family went car shopping. We test drove everything from the newly released Subaru Liberty, Mercedes 190E, BMW 320i and even the Jeep Cheroke. But after seeing and experiencing the 164, we were all smitten. Arriving at school, surrounded by the obligatory German and Japanese marques the Alfa was exotic, elegant and sounded incredible. Eventually the 164 left the family to be replaced many years later by an Audi S5. I still look out for our Alfa 164 'DWA 642' and these pictures ableit in 1/18 scale bring back some great memories. Thanks for the ride, gotta shop now on ebay for a red 164!
Thanks Simond! WOW, so your family actually had one of these, NICE! It's always nice to have some type or emotional bond with a miniature that is added into your collection. Funny, you mentioned a Peugeot. It's a mentality that some people from our parent's generation had with reference to buying European cars, but ones with a bit more personality, but maybe not as much reliability as the German cars of that era. Subaru "Liberty" is that like an Aussie spec'd Legacy variant? :unsure:
OMG, wasn't it cool, if your parents had a interesting car when you pulled up to school? That was so fun for me as a kid and pre-driving teen. I loved watching who was pulling up in whichever interesting ride! So, the 164 must have been a bit dramatic compared to the German and Japanese rides often seen.
This is what posting is ALL ABOUT! 😊 Bringing all of us together and forming some type of memory as to why you'd want to or not want to add a certain model to your collection. Looking forward to which ever one that you'll be getting! BTW, what color was your Mother's 164? Cheers to her for having EXCELLENT tastes 🥂
 

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Thanks for bringing up the review on the newest Triple9 release so soon David. I am still waiting on mine. I ordered the metallic red one. Somehow I am not used to seeing the 164 in two tone paint.

Agreed about the shallow panel lines. They dont look too convincing tbh. My two other former Tripl9 models, silver Civic EF and KPGC10 GTR all had similar shortcoming and I sold them off eventually.
My please Simon! Sorry that it took me two weeks to get this post out....I rushed it ahead of a backlog of other models. Great color choice! I really like my Proteo Red Metallic one, but I am guessing that the first 1/1 that you had seen was a mono colored one. As I remember the Phase-I pre-facelifted cars, I always associate the 164 with two-tones. 😊

Yeah, T9 needs to apply deeper engraving to their castings, so that paint doesn't hide panel lines.:unsure: I ended up loving and still have my original Civic EFs, I think that Triple9 made them crisp and sharp! I never added their Skyline or Mazda MX-5, as they didn't look so sharp. Are you getting a 164? Cheers!🥂
 

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Excellent pics that really show the crispness of the 164’s shape. It was such a striking looking car at launch and still is today. I hope someone makes the pre-facelift non QV version; I’m not a huge fan of the body kit. But happy to 164 love :)
Thanks Scuddy! 😊 I'm glad that you also liked my pics and they you can see the model details in clarity! Yes, in 1987-88, it really looked premium, didn't it? Just some solid looking Italian luxury car. I was really into the Phase Is as well. I liked the larger headlights, shiny grey lower cladding and teh wheels on the first ones, and I'd like to have one without the "trying to stay relevant" more aggressive body kit as well on these Phase IIs. I think that some resin companies make the earlier cars?:unsure: Cheers!🥂
 

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Agree. For an Alfa fan like me, it was a revelation, as it was the first truly new Alfa for years, which wasn’t based on another existing Alfa. Its boldness was as symbolic as it was stylish. Just a lovely piece of design.

Yeah, Laudo makes a pre facelift, and I have it in grey but again it’s a Q4 with the body kit. Maybe in time they’ll make a Phase 1 fwd 3.0 v6.(y)

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Agree. For an Alfa fan like me, it was a revelation, as it was the first truly new Alfa for years, which wasn’t based on another existing Alfa. It’s boldness was as symbolic as it was stylish. Just a lovely piece of design.

Yeah, Laudo makes a pre facelift, and I have it in grey but again it’s a Q4 with the body kit. Maybe in time they’ll make a Phase 1 fwd 3.0 v6.(y)

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Wow, I really do love this design in this grey metallic! Laudo have done a good job here as well!! 👏 Yes, this car still looks pretty to me as well. Fingers crossed that Triple9 or someone will do an opening metal one as a Phase I....looking at Solido for that!
 

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Two real beauties! And nice pics!
They really are! Will you also be adding Triple9's upcoming 155? Thanks! Glad that you like my pics as well!🥂
A couple of the few colors coming here....
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Cheers!!!
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I had a Norev W126 but something about it seems off
You're right, something with the roof being a little too flat (I'll post a pic below)? .......but, I think that Norev have done the best job on W126s so far, outside of the Otto AMG one.

I see, it's actually the front of the A-Pillar is too upright.....I need to un-box and shoot my other ones. Would be nice if Norev made the SEC!!!🤞
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Cheers!🥂
 
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