[Guest]

I would love to add a 1:43 of the 1982 Porsche 956L #1 driven by Derek Bell and Jacky Ickx to my collection.

I found a page which states (and shows with pics) that, in a nutshell, the Quartzo version is better than the Minichamps, aside from the wheels.

It seems the Quartzo comes with the Rothman's livery where the Minichamps is either blank and has the decals in the box or has "Racing" where "Rothman's" would be.

Can someone who has or has seen these comment on them?

Thanks! :cheers

 

[Delta_Farce]

I've only seen photos of each car, but the Rothmans livery should be available from factory on both cars. Minichamps and their distributors were nearly sued by Rothmans last year for releasing that livery on thier cars, but you should be able to find them on eBay (they were released in Japan before the threat of legal action).

The Quartzo version is very hard to find (and expensive) from what I know. I do know that some of their cars have brilliant detail though.

See what you can find and what it costs, then make your choice is my advice.

Best of luck though,

Mark

 

[Guest]

Minichamps released this model three times. One as a standard release (which is discontinued), if I remember correctly, doesn't have the Rothman livery. There's a second version which is the Porsche dealer edition that comes from the Porsche Le Mans History set, which did have the Rothman livery. The third one is the one that come in the Minichamps three car set, which is where the lawsuit and story comes in.

When Minichamps first released this model set (along with other older F1 models), they found sort of a loop hole to do authentic models with correct liveries, but then one dealer in the UK posted a full page ad in the paper advertising this 3 car set with the correct livery, which in turn caught the attention of the tobacco company. Since the models have been on sale in Japan already, they were not brought back. Instead, whatever left in the factory were back in the production line where "Racing" decals were added to covers the correct decals. All you have to do is remove them with tape.

If you want the model and don't really care about the brand, get what you can buy, since Porsche models are in high demand right now on eBay.

 

[Guest]

I've had both and still have one Minichamps 956. It's kind of odd as the Minichamps packaging is still the best, but detail wise the Quartzo does get the nod, especially for the subtlties noted in this article.

http://www.diecastsportscar.com/LeMans/1983/Porsche962.html

If I'm not mistaken as well, Quartzo did alot more in the not so common liveries. Buy em' now cause' they will wind up being more highly prized and therefor rare.

JMO. :cheers

OT - I am patiently awaiting the Minichamps 1/18 version of the Icyx/Bell LeMans winning 956L.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the replies all! I'm leaning towards the Quartzo but love Minichamps... :tempted

I've had both and still have one Minichamps 956. It's kind of odd as the Minichamps packaging is still the best, but detail wise the Quartzo does get the nod, especially for the subtlties noted in this article.

http://www.diecastsportscar.com/LeMans/1983/Porsche962.html

This is the website I saw that compares the two. I have a lot of Minichamps models and was surprised when I read this, but he has good points backed up with pics.

OT - I am patiently awaiting the Minichamps 1/18 version of the Icyx/Bell LeMans winning 956L.

I am also waiting for this, however I'm assuming the same issue with the "Rothman's" logo will come into play. I would imagine decals will either be included or made available.

 

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I am also waiting for this, however I'm assuming the same issue with the "Rothman's" logo will come into play. I would imagine decals will either be included or made available.

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If you require decals I can polly help when this one comes out(as I do have a source for the current model and these are the best decals period...from my experience).

I'm under the impression though that all that is required is to gently peel off the top decal to reveal the "Rothmans". :confused

 

[Guest]

Rumour is that some of the 1/18 versions didn't actually have the tobacco decals underneath the Racing decals. I think Toronto Motorsports (http://www.tomotorsport.com) carries some of these decals.

It would be interesting to see what they will do with their upcoming releases.