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I'm quite interested in the M-210 Ferrari 275GTB/C in plain red without racing decals. However on their website they said that it would feature "cast-aluminum wheels and Pirelli tyres instead of Borrani wire wheels" because the plain version never saw "the rigor of wheel-to-wheel competition".

Anyone have more insight into this as it seems quite a major turnoff, if true.

 

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I'm looking forward to the red 275gtb, as I like all my Ferrari models to have the same color, also looking forward for it to join my CMC line of red 250 GTB SWB, Testa rossa, California and GTO.

That's an amazing collection of '60s Ferraris. Hope to see that whole fleet soon!

 

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Thanks for all the insights!

Personally I would prefer to have a model of the "standard" long-nose 275 GTB/4 without racing affiliations but given this, I may pivot to the limited edition Argento silver or burgundy (Rosso Rubino) racing ones. Unlike Ferraris from other eras I always thought those from the '60s don't have to be red.

Very strange how the 250 GTO in model form is more desirable without racing decals unlike the real car, as that is one of the only Ferraris I might prefer more with racing decal along with the 250 LM. Perhaps something to do with Ralph Lauren's own 250 GTO not having any racing decal?

 

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Seriously, the cheapest on eBay is just under $600. And others are going for a lot more. I think the chance of me buying one is long gone.

Given that the CMC 275 GTB/C is going to be priced ~$490, I'd be curious to know what price you feel is a "reasonable" price for the 250 SWB or 250 California?

 

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Yeah I'd agree with you Mike about Kyosho's 250 GTO, which I'm still in the market for. A Kyosho "hi-end" version seems to go for ~$250 these days, which already isn't so cheap.

I thought we were talking about the GTO. When they were new they were less than $400, or right around there.

The SWB and California's are about double what they used to be. I got my SWB for $250. The cheapest similar model is $700. And the California is even more expensive. All of it is crazy. When a model sells for several hundred dollars more than new, I think they are no longer "reasonable". Get them when they new or it's not worth it to me.

Yeah the 250 California is definitely above my budget, with the black and blue limited editions the most desired with a ~$900 asking.

I found a 250 SWB Le Mans #14 priced at ~$490, don't know if I should take the plunge. What do you guys think of this price? Huge regrets for not buying new when they were $250, but I guess that price is not so relevant anymore.

 

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Cool, finally some news from CMC. Still waiting for their 275 GTB

Glad they are still active, but like you I'm also waiting for that 275 GTB. I have a feeling it will probably arrive in the March 2021 quarter.

 

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I also didn't pre-order the CMC 275 GTB/C based on whether it would appreciate substantially in the future, but I chose chassis 09051 because I like the wire wheels and I think Argento Silver best captures the shape of these 1960s Ferraris.

Having looked at many photos of the 275 GTB/4, which only existed in long-nose form, I just don't think the BBR version properly replicated the shape of the front headlights. But I'm not sure to what extent this affected BBR's sales.

 

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Exciting to see the progress on the 275 GTB further down. Still looks a long way off though!

Yeah that 275 looks quite behind schedule, and likely not ready until 2H 2021...

 

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BTW, I'm puzzled why this 275 GTB #26 is so popular. Limited edition 1800 pieces (so more than the 250 GTO #19) and it seems they are already sold out before release. Is it because people see this as the next 250 GTO #19? But result wise it's no where near the Le Mans class winner 250 GTO #19. In fact, it didn't even finish the race.

I do agree that among the announced 275 racers, this livery is the most beautiful one, as this is the only red livery racer.

I think its just because most people only collect Ferrari models in red, and given its limited edition. I went with the silver, but I noticed the burgundy one is also sold out on the CMC website.

 

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That is good to know, hopefully it won't be as weird as the GTO turned out.

Same, hopefully the 275 GTB/C will be an accurate model unlike the 250 GTO and DB4 GT Zagato. I just checked on CMC's website and apparently all four limited edition colours are sold out... and we are still at least half a year away from the first batch of completed models. I hope they will take note of the popularity of these 1960s Ferraris and make more, like the 330 P4, 250 LM, 275 GTB/4 NART and 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso. It seems like they have been focusing a lot on 1930s Mercedes and Alfa Romeos.

 

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So we can argue the street version CMC 250 GTO is based on 3809GT, so its shape can be considered as accurate. But how about the CMC race versions? In particular #19 would have a wrong shape because the 1:18 model is also based on 3809GT, right?

We can argue that the ''street version'' CMC 250 GTO reflects the accurate shape of 3809GT during the period between 1965 and 2016 (?).

Here is the history of the car (not updated with the recent restoration):
http://www.barchetta...09GT.250GTO.htm
see Oct. 1965 .. - restored with partly new bodywork made at Les Monks, GB - wrong nose

The CMC is still an excellent model don't get me wrong. But the ultimate 250 GTO in 1:18 has yet to be made.
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That makes a lot of sense. I was looking at some of the old photos of this particular chassis number and instantly recognized the slightly-flattish shape of the hood as that of the CMC model. It seems like a proper rebuild later rectified this issue, prior to being sold by Tom Hartley Jr in 2019.

https://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/tomtalks/ferrari-250-gto/

 

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Yes, the rivets on the CMC 312P and the Lancia D50 look so wrong, it's a shame... Accurate scale rivets don't seem to be hard to accomplish:

The interior could be improved, sure, but I bet CMC wouldn't bother with details like the dangling keychain above the shifter, that makes the GMP quite special:

These pics make me want one... as they look somewhat worth the CMC money that they are trading at today.

 

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Yes I would very much prefer them to master the basics before focusing on the details.

Despite current market valuations, I continue to find the shape of their 250 GTO and DB4 GTZ a little bit tough on the eyes when I know what the real car looks like.

 

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Glad they got the shape of the headlights spot on. That blue #55 looks quite nice, but I’m still in no regrets for ordering #98 in silver. I’m kind of tempted to get more than one.

 

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I can't see too much excitement for the 904. If they insist upon German cars, they could have considered the normal 300 SL or 600 SWB.

It should be a matter of time for CMC to work on ones like the 250 LM, 275 GTB/4 NART, 250 GT LWB TDF, Dino 246 GT, 335 S, 330 P4.

 

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The 275 #4 with wired wheels is released

【图片】CMC 法拉利275 GTB/C 4# 宝石红【汽车模型吧】_百度贴吧

Glad to see the racing version are finally ready and the texture on those seats are indeed very interesting.

Including both the racing and non-racing variants, CMC seems to have released the 275 GTB/C in more colours than in prior models like the 250 California, 250 SWB etc.

 

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Indeed more colors than every single CMC Ferrari model before.
And I think it makes very good sense from business point of view. Better to release more 'limited' edition variants than only in red and yellow like the 250 SWB.
Collectors more preferably to buy a model in different colors than 3x the same color.

Indeed it is regrettable that CMC didn't release more colours over a longer period of time for popular models like the 250 SWB, which only had 4 variants. Like you said, they could have further monetized collectors who may otherwise have bought more than one of each, given the minimal incremental R&D that would have entailed.

 

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It seems like the 275 GTB/C #98 in silver will be released soon.

【图片】CMC 法拉利275 GTB/C，银色98号穆杰罗冠军！【汽车模型吧】_百度贴吧

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