[MockingBird]

Reading thru the thread on how greedy AUTOart is getting got me into setting up a thread on the lousy cars or the cars which AUTOart makes that are not WORTH the $$$. Any obvious cost cutting stuff they put out in the cars... or anything that you are just not happy with on certain cars... name the cars!!! let everyone know

Porsche GT3R..sorry, decal-ed spotlights just don't do it for me

Every SEALED car... wern;t those supposed to be cheaper??? they're not!

POS... nuff said...put it in a Maisto box or sumthin

 

[winstoncds]

Here is a surprise addition to the list. The Maybach 62. For not giving those aircraft types seats on the model, except for the dealer edition which costs 1/18 the price of the 1:1.
I think it would be a disservice to a good dealer like Modelissimo to have their name next to the worst cars of AUTOart.

 

[StygianMax]

I think more and more people are doing this...

And rightly so :wink

 

[Guest]

I don't think such a list will be limited to that of AUTOart, all companies will have models that will fit on such a list.

I think with the recent releases, price increases and developments in the distributor chain, AUTOart is perhaps deserving of such a thread as collectors are now beginning to wake up from their naps.

Their new 997 in silver is deserving of a mention. The mix match pain on the front bumper looks like it has a bra on it.

The last GT3R was described as upgraded, with the replacement of dog legs, I don't think anyone can argue thats defintely an upgrade. However, them omitting the mesh as they had on the first one is a production shortcut in my book. Also the accuracy of the fuel filler.

The accuracy of their models is definitely a problem as they acknowledged in their email response to me.

The engines on all of their Porsche models needs to be brought up to date. The one piece plastic mold is best left for budget models, something these models have long past.

The Diablo GTR with the vents angled incorrectly, I believe this was limited to the Orange ones.

The Mercedes 190E with MERCEDS speelled on the engine block.

The 69 Corvette, not even sure if there is anything right on this model.

I have made my feelings known how I feel about AUTOart and their recent models. I hope and hope in a big way that they turn things around for the sake of the hobbies future. Because right now, the diecast future doesn't look to bright at all and its just not AUTOart fault.

 

[redleaf]

The Diablo GTR with the vents angled incorrectly, I believe this was limited to the Orange ones.

Sadly, my black Diablo GTRis flawed too :/
My complain would go to the Bugatti Veyron, heck, nothing justifies such price increase, except the nice box.

 

[Guest]

Let's not forget the Navigator, which (incorrectly) used the old UT Ford Expedition's taillights.

And I heartily concur on all the rest...especially the sealed crap and that cheapo S-Class.

 

[Guest]

Its not just the quality problems or price's sky-rocketing.

Can AUTOart really get anything out on-time, Lotus Esprit V8 is a classic example and we haven't heard anything about it for age's (have they canceled that as well like the Diablo 6.0 or what?) and now even, the Mazda 787B at Numberg it look ready for hitting the shelves, so whats taking them so long?

 

[Road Runner 72]

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:iagree & hear it as well.

 

[Guest]

I really think there is a global accuracy problem on latest AUTOart models:

-missing tank refueller on the Kwan
-tank refueller on the Red Bull
-Merceds
-Fog Lights
-False Porsche names (GT3rs, GT3r, Le Mans winner,...)

That is a shame

 

[DC4ME]

I should have paid more attention to this before. I have 3 AUTOart's that i have gotten in the past 2 months and there has been problems

1-Bugatti Veyron Black/Red- Missing 1 rear brake caliper
2-2005 Mustang Fire Red-Rear lights popped off (lack of glue)
3-BMW M# Watson White/Green- Missing rear brake caliper

I know we live in a unperfect world but it is a lot of money to be paying lately to have these kind of issues.

DC4ME

 

[roadstermatt]

silly question whats a Kwan??

 

[Guest]

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This is Kwan:

 

[lazard]

However, them omitting the mesh as they had on the first one is a production shortcut in my book

A small correction: In my photos of real client versions (i.e., the white racing cars) of GT3 R and GT3 RS, the mesh is presnet in GT3 RS only. Therefore I tink that it is OK when the meash is not present in the upgrated model. But in racing cars, the mesh is present is some real cars and in some not.

missing tank refueller on the Kwan

There is not tank refuler in front compartrment cover in real "Kwan" - see photos of real car in my web site.

As I wrote in my comment to DX review of the Yokohama - I can imagine several versions of the same real racing car in different races (in one championship). Therefore, a little "modifications" of the model are accepted by me. And if you want to rate a model, you must find all accessible images of real car, not only one.

 

[Guest]

However, them omitting the mesh as they had on the first one is a production shortcut in my book

A small correction: In my photos of real client versions (i.e., the white racing cars) of GT3 R and GT3 RS, the mesh is presnet in GT3 RS only. Therefore I tink that it is OK when the meash is not present in the upgrated model. But in racing cars, the mesh is present is some real cars and in some not.

lazard,

Check out this GT3R, it has the mesh present.

We have debated this sooooooooooooooooooooo many times about this car from AUTOart. Some say the first release is the most accurate, others say the secnd one is more accurate. I lean towards the first one, as I have seen pictures to prove the first one has mesh. Also the GT3R doesn't have a fuel filler in the front hodd as AUTOart's model does.

Here is the topic that covered this model sometime ago. I believe we started talking about the GT3R on page 3 :lol

http://www.diecastxchange.com/forum1/index...showtopic=23237

BTW, I replied to your response in the Yokohoma review.

 

[lazard]

DX,
I will reply to the photo you send here later because I do not have my photos available now (they are stored in another PC). But I will show you that the car in your image is most probably GT3 RS and no GT3 R. Please, wait for my later post.

 

[lazard]

Bellow are the images. Some of them have already been posted in another forum.
The GT3 R car is identified by the GT3 R sign in the top of front window - the car has yelow back mirrors. The GT3 RS car is identified by the RS sign on the back engine cover - the car has black back mirrors. In the GT3 R there is no front mesh and in the GT3 RS there is the mesh. Therefore, I think that the real car in your photo (black back nirrors and with the front mesh) is more probably GT3 RS and not GT3 R. Morover, the file of your image is saved as GT3RS and not as GT3R.
I do not want to say by these images which the AUTOart model is more correct. I have the first version of the AUTOart model and I will not buy the second version. But not because it is maybe more correct (or not) but because modifications on the model are only minor and one model of the same type is enough for me.
GT3 R

GT3 RS

 

[LUW]

Guys, I really don't think the mesh is an issue. It's a bolt-on acessory, so maybe some client put it on and maybe some haven't. But the absence of the fuel cell intake is. AUTOart's R has the hood with a hole in it for direct access to the fuel cell nozzle. Since I guess the hood is made of carbon fiber on the race car and I think it would be standard equipment, why doesn't any of these cars have it? Unless of course the carbon fiber hood was a later add-on by race teams, like the mesh. If so, AUTOart wasn't wrong.

But at least on my RS the front air intakes are totally different then the ones on the R. So if the above picture is of an RS, AUTOart got it totally wrong. I particulary think that AUTOart based it's model on a more recent RS then the one on the pic.

 

[JSB 33]

My head is starting to spin :shipwrecked

 

[Guest]

Morning Gents,

Certainly not a topic I would start the morning out with :giggle

Whether the GT3R that AUTOart released is based off the R or RS, either way they got it wrong.

The GT3R did not have mesh on the front end, as the RS model did indeed have mesh. We're talking presentation cars at this point.

Whether or not the first release is correct or the later release is, neither the GT3R or GT3RS Presentation models had a fuel cell filler in the front hood.

Thats evident by Lazards pics.

Luciano, I'm a little confused,actually a lot :giggle

You mention a RS, is the second release designated as a RS?

 

[LUW]

When I said RS, I was talking about AUTOart's blue and red RS, that supposedly is the race car made legal to ride on the street. It won't have a carbon fiber hood or even a fuel cell, but body panels should be exactly the same, so the frontal air intakes have to be the same. Dusan's pics look as if they're from the same car, judging about the front of the car, and they don't like what you see on AUTOart's RS. Maybe Porsche did change a bit the RS between the first and final releases of the car. If that's the case, maybe we're looking at a "1st gen" car and AUTOart did a later version of it.

That sounds plausible to me, since as far as I know the RS was introduced as a "better version" of the R, mainly engine-wise. So (again) maybe these pics are of the car with the new engine (RS) but still using the overall body of the R. I'm quite sure the changes to the body and chassis, from the R to the "final version" of the RS were just to improve aerodynamics a bit, but nothing major.

And yes, that's a lot of maybes. But I'm aware that replicating a race car is a lot more difficult then a street car, specially when you have the car made in small numbers and many times with special modifications asked by the teams and done at the factory. I'm not defending AUTOart, since I really don't for sure if things did happen that way, but that would explain a lot.