[samx5]

Just saw this, for the Camaro fans

 

[Turtle]

Yep, already placed my preorder for the Bathurst 1983. Love that livery!

 

[BK1]

Just saw this, for the Camaro fans

These are really nice!!! Somw very unique liveries. I'm assuming though none of them were very successful overall?

Interesting how CC is taking advantage of their Camaro mold now. I wonder if it went missing/was misplaced for the better part of a decade and was only recently located? Or perhaps something to do with licensing? Regardless, it's nice they're taking advantage of it giving us collectors more options.

 

[slartibartfast229]

These are really nice!!! Somw very unique liveries. I'm assuming though none of them were very successful overall?

Interesting how CC is taking advantage of their Camaro mold now. I wonder if it went missing/was misplaced for the better part of a decade and was only recently located? Or perhaps something to do with licensing? Regardless, it's nice they're taking advantage of it giving us collectors more options.

For most of the time the Camaro was in use in Australia it was required - by the rules - to stick with drum rear brakes.
The road car versions still came this way, and the racer had to continue to use them, and on a relatively heavy car this was a major handicap.
So you guess correctly, there were no major race results for any of the versions shown above - indeed for the Camaro in general.
I'd still like to be able to afford to import a Bartlett Bathurst version myself.....

 

[Oldtimer]

Yep, already placed my preorder for the Bathurst 1983. Love that livery!

These are really nice!!! Somw very unique liveries. I'm assuming though none of them were very successful overall?

Interesting how CC is taking advantage of their Camaro mold now. I wonder if it went missing/was misplaced for the better part of a decade and was only recently located? Or perhaps something to do with licensing? Regardless, it's nice they're taking advantage of it giving us collectors more options.

I would love to get one of those, in a blemished condition.

Would make a great donor for a custom version of some that ran here in either SCCA Trans Am or IMSA GTO.

 

[BK1]

Thanks @slartibartfast229 for the info! A heavy car like that would need better braking especially when upgrading from the anemic and choked 350.

Would make a great donor for a custom version of some that ran here in either SCCA Trans Am or IMSA GTO.

I'd love to see them offer it in a stock version. It's the nicest end-of-the-road 2nd generation Camaro out there.

 

[samx5]

For most of the time the Camaro was in use in Australia it was required - by the rules - to stick with drum rear brakes.
The road car versions still came this way, and the racer had to continue to use them, and on a relatively heavy car this was a major handicap.
So you guess correctly, there were no major race results for any of the versions shown above - indeed for the Camaro in general.
I'd still like to be able to afford to import a Bartlett Bathurst version myself.....

Yes the brakes were a real problem, Kevin Bartlett was very vocal about it at the time and in his pit lane interview that can be found on YT at Bathurst he didn't hold back - Kev is a real character. The car itself was on pole twice at Bathurst so it had plenty of grunt, but it would run out of brakes too quickly and lap times would drop off. It also won a few Championship races and after discs were added in 1981 it was very competitive. Bartlett offers a brief insight in the following article:
GALLERY: KEVIN BARLETT TALKS ABOUT HIS CHANNEL NINE CAMARO
It's funny reading about the weight reduction they were able to achieve - Dick Johnson was able to get his Falcon down to a couple of hundred kilograms lighter again than the Camaro as the paperwork the Ford crew submitted for homologation for the XD Falcon was for the ute version, not the sedan - it's only illegal if you get caught!
I'm still really enjoying the Camaro model, it has to be one of CC's best efforts. They are still around at retail price down here so you could still take the plunge, I know it's not cheap but I think it's worth it.

 

[Oldtimer]

Thanks @slartibartfast229 for the info! A heavy car like that would need better braking especially when upgrading from the anemic and choked 350.



I'd love to see them offer it in a stock version. It's the nicest end-of-the-road 2nd generation Camaro out there.

Interestingly, we could run four-wheel disc brakes on our racing Camaros from the late 60’s.

My ‘69 had Corvette L-88 brakes front and rear, with factory adapters.

 

[slartibartfast229]

Yes the brakes were a real problem, Kevin Bartlett was very vocal about it at the time and in his pit lane interview that can be found on YT at Bathurst he didn't hold back - Kev is a real character. The car itself was on pole twice at Bathurst so it had plenty of grunt, but it would run out of brakes too quickly and lap times would drop off. It also won a few Championship races and after discs were added in 1981 it was very competitive. Bartlett offers a brief insight in the following article:
GALLERY: KEVIN BARLETT TALKS ABOUT HIS CHANNEL NINE CAMARO
It's funny reading about the weight reduction they were able to achieve - Dick Johnson was able to get his Falcon down to a couple of hundred kilograms lighter again than the Camaro as the paperwork the Ford crew submitted for homologation for the XD Falcon was for the ute version, not the sedan - it's only illegal if you get caught!
I'm still really enjoying the Camaro model, it has to be one of CC's best efforts. They are still around at retail price down here so you could still take the plunge, I know it's not cheap but I think it's worth it.

Ford originally homologated the Ford Capri at 900kgs by taking the bumpers off the prototype RS2600 and fitting fibreglass panels for the FIA tests.
No road going Capri was ever sold down at that sort of weight, and then Ford convinced the FIA that the MKII and MKIII were essentially the same car with slightly different bodywork!
So all race versions of the Capri in 'production' form could run at 900kgs according to the yellow rule book.....

 

[BK1]

Interestingly, we could run four-wheel disc brakes on our racing Camaros from the late 60’s.

My ‘69 had Corvette L-88 brakes front and rear, with factory adapters.

Didn't the 1st-gen Z28s come standard with 4 wheel disc's? If so, then it should be considered a standard feature. I'd imagine at some point during the 2nd gens lifespan the, let's keep it cheap, mentality took over and the 4 wheel disc were gone.

 

[Oldtimer]

Didn't the 1st-gen Z28s come standard with 4 wheel disc's? If so, then it should be considered a standard feature. I'd imagine at some point during the 2nd gens lifespan the, let's keep it cheap, mentality took over and the 4 wheel disc were gone.

No, first Gen Z28’s came from the factory with rear drums. A rear disc axle dealer option was available and homologated for SCCA A-Sedan and Trans Am racing.

I stand to be corrected, but I don’t think you could order a factory-installed rear disc axle.

My racer had the further upgrade to the Corvette J-56 front disc brakes along with the rear disc setup.

 

[BK1]

No, first Gen Z28’s came from the factory with rear drums. A rear disc axle dealer option was available and homologated for SCCA A-Sedan and Trans Am racing.

I stand to be corrected, but I don’t think you could order a factory-installed rear disc axle.

My racer had the further upgrade to the Corvette J-56 front disc brakes along with the rear disc setup.

Being curious now, I took a look and the '69 was available with the JL8 option for a short time which put disc's on all 4 wheels. It was expensive and production was very low (200 some odd Camaro's got it). Otherwise it's as you said, drums on the rear except for OTC.

Below is where I found the info. Good read if you're into that sort of thing.

Camaro Chassis - Suspension, Axle, Brakes, & Wheels

First-Generation Camaro Research and Restoration Data

www.camaros.org

 

[BK1]

The RHD Mustang is back in another colour (well a different red from when it was first released in 2004):