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First off apologies for not posting any pics, but having a part time job as a photographer means that i'm a bit loathe to pick up the camera on my day off!

In the space of two days i've picked up 4 minichamps mclarens in 1:18.... hamiltons first test mp4-21 2006, the regular mp4-22 from 2007, alonso's mp4-22 from the same year and the brazil edition of hamiltons mp4-23 2008. The first 3 were all on offer, the only one I paid full price for was the 2008 edition.

When I unpacked them, I noticed that the 2007 hamilton model had a couple of slight nicks in the paintwork around the fuel filler cap. it's not a big deal considering it was half price, but still :p. It seems like these chrome finish models especially with their complex aero are prone to defects....i picked up the alonso model today and had time to go through a whole stack of them to pick out a good one. Of the ones I went through I would say about 1 in 4 had a blemish of some sort on it, and one even had a detached lower front suspension wishbone. Having just opened my alonso car, I've noticed the pitot tube has fallen off the front. It goes back on quite easily, but thats not really the point. All of which makes me think that ordering one of these online would be a bit risky, so buyer beware.

Also, about 10 years ago minichamps were about £40 for a 1:18 in the uk. Now they have just jumped from about £55 to £69.99 (this being the amount I paid for the '08 hamilton brazil car). I can understand the extra cost associated with creating a model with 50 million aero parts on it,the '08 mclaren is quite intricate. What I don't understand is that this will be the standard price for '09 cars, which isn't justified in my view, as the cars have gone back to being quite 'clean' again.

So, has anybody else had issues with chrome mclarens, or have any views on the changed pricing structure?
 

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I know there are quality issues with the McLarens. Mine has several minor defects and if you do a search on the McLaren postings in this forum, others have also reported finding defects. It appears to affect only the McLaren as my '06 Honda and '08 BMW are both perfect.

Can't say I've noticed a big increase with the prices. The Brazil version of the Hamilton car is priced at £69.99 but I figured it's a limited edition reason... maybe
 

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i thought the 69.99 pricing was because it was a limited edition as well...but the standard '09 car will be 69.99 as well...and with the simplified aero. AND the wheels don't turn. ??

i'm sure with the '08 mclarens these cars have reached a peak in terms of complexity of parts and finish. perhaps minichamps were reaching the limits of what they could make for the price? can't see how this carries over into the simplified '09 cars pricing though.
 

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I completely agree. My MP4-23 is definitely inferior to the older mclarens. Interestingly, compared to my 4-16, 20 and 21 it is also slightly unfinished. For example, the buttons on the steering wheel are unpainted but painted on the older cars. Also, the rear disc and caliper are clearly inferior to the older cars with no detail at all. considering the price it's pretty disappointing really.
 

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good point on the detailing. it seems strange that they've gone to such lengths on aero, but have no detail on the brakes, which even an old '94 mclaren i've got somewhere does have....strange. don't get me wrong though, they are beautiful models when they're without errors, just I wouldn't recommend mail ordering one. shop bought where you can check it out is definitely best.
 
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Mine has similar problems too. The quality of Minichamps has dropped. Of the recent cars i've owned, i can say perhaps only the BMW are much better with less noticable paint flaws.
 

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i'm not sure that the quality has out and out dropped, but as the models have got more complex it's become harder for them to make. I was looking at getting an '07 or '08 ferrari though and i have to say that minichamps are still way better than mattel....
 
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Yes the paintwork "chips" can be forgiven provided they don't occur on every piece. I like the thin sidepod deflectors that they have. Compare them to the 1.5mm thick sidepod deflectors which i saw on the F60, Minichamps still rule.

However, F60 has photo etched ultra thin Peto tube/Antenna on the top of the cockpit.
 

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modelzone.co.uk has the 2006 1:18 hamilton test car and the 2007 standard hamilton race car at 30gbp each and the alonso 2007 car at 20 gbp. Quite a good deal, although they might be selling out quick. i know when i went in my store the other day the '07 hamiltons were gone.

10 years ago i bought a '98 benetton in 1:18 from a store and found the undertray was cracked where the screws go into the base from overtightening in the factory. took it back for another and found that was the same....ended up exchanging it for a '98 schumacher in the end, so defects aren't really anything new. however the '09 cars will be so much simpler it should be pretty hard for them to get it wrong, especially at 75gbp!
 
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First off apologies for not posting any pics, but having a part time job as a photographer means that i'm a bit loathe to pick up the camera on my day off!

In the space of two days i've picked up 4 minichamps mclarens in 1:18.... hamiltons first test mp4-21 2006, the regular mp4-22 from 2007, alonso's mp4-22 from the same year and the brazil edition of hamiltons mp4-23 2008. The first 3 were all on offer, the only one I paid full price for was the 2008 edition.

When I unpacked them, I noticed that the 2007 hamilton model had a couple of slight nicks in the paintwork around the fuel filler cap. it's not a big deal considering it was half price, but still :p. It seems like these chrome finish models especially with their complex aero are prone to defects....i picked up the alonso model today and had time to go through a whole stack of them to pick out a good one. Of the ones I went through I would say about 1 in 4 had a blemish of some sort on it, and one even had a detached lower front suspension wishbone. Having just opened my alonso car, I've noticed the pitot tube has fallen off the front. It goes back on quite easily, but thats not really the point. All of which makes me think that ordering one of these online would be a bit risky, so buyer beware.

Also, about 10 years ago minichamps were about £40 for a 1:18 in the uk. Now they have just jumped from about £55 to £69.99 (this being the amount I paid for the '08 hamilton brazil car). I can understand the extra cost associated with creating a model with 50 million aero parts on it,the '08 mclaren is quite intricate. What I don't understand is that this will be the standard price for '09 cars, which isn't justified in my view, as the cars have gone back to being quite 'clean' again.

So, has anybody else had issues with chrome mclarens, or have any views on the changed pricing structure?
 
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Hi im Dave I am new to this site . I do not think we should have to pay more for crome mclarens & the 2009 1:18 Minichamps do not come with working steering this is not on as we have to pay the some price as before ?
 

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I have a handful of the "chrome" McLarens, and haven't really noticed any major paint flaws that I can recall. I have, however, seen issues with build quality, and details. I am not discouraged by the issues because the cars were getting so complicated. The cars are also still beautiful if you can get a good one.

My opinion of the current pricing is that I have decided the '09 regulation changes makes for a good spot to stop my F1 collection. As the prices have gone up so much since I started collecting, I can no longer justify the cost of a large F1 collection. All the models I am interested in are so much better now than they were 10 years ago. The photo-etched details on belts, fasteners, aero along with the quality of the molding everything looks on cars from F1 to Le Mans is impressive these days. All that detail comes at a cost and I can't go into my local shop and get a deal on 4 cars for $200USD anymore. The new F1 cars are simple compared to the old 2008 versions, yet the price is just as high and don't have some of the same features(turning wheels).

When the prices of Minichamps, and Autoarts were in the range of $50-$70, I could buy several models and have a nice collection. At $100+ per model, I can't justify purchasing several cars anymore. I still buy when I find a discount, but I can't collect like I used to.
 

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When I unpacked them, I noticed that the 2007 hamilton model had a couple of slight nicks in the paintwork around the fuel filler cap. it's not a big deal considering it was half price, but still :p.
Oh dear i've just ordered one of these...
 
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